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Good articleHoward Beach–JFK Airport station has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
August 16, 2017Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 9, 2017.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 3.5 miles (5.6 km) separating the New York City Subway's JFK Airport and Broad Channel stations is the longest distance between two consecutive stations in the system?

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This station is served by New York City subway and the JFK AirTrain, but there is a category "Long Island Rail Road stations". What does Long Island Rail Road have to do with this article? NHRHS2010 |  Talk to me  12:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was originally an LIRR station along the Rockaway Beach Branch. ----DanTD (talk) 17:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sportsguy17 (talk · contribs) 19:17, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


@Kew Gardens 613: I'll be reviewing this article. On a first glance, it looks very solid. I'll have some detailed feedback in the next few days. In the meantime, if you could check for any bare references or dead links, that would be much appreciated. Best, Sportsguy17 (TC) 19:17, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking it up. I will check the references.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:40, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sportsguy17:  Done The sources have all been checked. epicgenius (talk) 03:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I took another read over the article. It has a bit of work to do still, but I'm fairly impressed with what I see. I'll post my detailed feedback later tomorrow. I would do it now but it's a bit late where I live and I'm getting an early start to my day tomorrow. I have high hopes for this article, so hopefully my feedback will help to solidify it as a GA. Until tomorrow, Sportsguy17 (TC) 03:15, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 09:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kew Gardens 613: Detailed feedback as promised. Here we go:

Lede
  • In the second to last sentence of the second paragraph, change "was built" to "was constructed" just so the word "built" isn't overused.
  • In the last sentence of the second paragraph, change it from "The rebuilt station was completed" to "The rebuilt complex opened on" because it is more factually accurate in multiple respects.
History
  • First paragraph is very good.
  • Second paragraph is quite messy, so my suggestions are as follows:
    • Change first sentence to: "On June 27, 1955, the Howard Beach station, along with all the rest of the Rockaway Beach Branch stations south of the now defunct Ozone Park station, was taken out of service for eight months for restructuring and upgrading of the tracks, so that they could accommodate subway service."
    • Change second sentence to: "During the project, the Howard Beach station, along with the Broad Channel and Far Rockaway stations, was completely rebuilt utilizing a modern design, which included a new overhead passageway between the two platforms."
    • Third sentence is fine.
    • Change third sentence to: On June 28, 1956, the station reopened as a subway station along with the rest of the line. The previous Long Island Rail Road station at this location was razed.
    • Fifth sentence is fine.
  • Third paragraph is fine.
  • In the fourth paragraph, change the third sentence to "During the rebuilding of the station, the original subway platforms were demolished and temporary platforms were erected in the center trackways while the new platforms and mezzanine were built. During off-peak hours, trains utilized a single track."
  • Fifth paragraph is fine.
Station layout
  • Content-wise, this section is solid, but the layout of it is not aesthetically pleasing at all. All of the diagrams and pictures squishing the text into the middle is a wee bit distracting. Maybe move the pictures to the bottom and make a "Gallery" section. I'm seeing that in other NYC Subway station Good Articles.

One thing to add: I noticed inconsistencies throughout the article with rebuilds vs. remodeling/reconstruction in terms of the early 2000s project. Which was it? I personally got a bit confused by that so if you could make sure it all says one or the other throughout I'd appreciate it. Beyond that, once you are done making all the above changes, give it one more good copy edit and then I think it should be all set for GA status! Cheers, Sportsguy17 (TC) 02:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Everything is done.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 10:40, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'll pass this momentarily. Sportsguy17 (TC) 00:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review. I hope to be working with you again soon.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 00:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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