Talk:Hogwarts Legacy
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 01:22, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- ... that Hogwarts Legacy is set in the late 1800s, before the events of the Harry Potter series, allowing players to explore a different era of the Wizarding World? Source: [1]
ALT1: ... that the soundtrack of Hogwarts Legacy was created to showcase a distinctive style, while also drawing inspiration from the previous Harry Potter-related musical work of composer John Williams?Source: [2]- ALT2: ... that during the early-access period of Hogwarts Legacy, the game set a new record on Twitch with the largest number of concurrent viewers for a single-player game in history? Source: [3]
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- Comment: First time using this template, will check after creation.
Improved to Good Article status by Vestigium Leonis (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hogwarts Legacy; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Lots of detail, presented in a way that was easy to follow, in this timely GA article. New enough (submitted within one day of achieving GA), long enough, well sourced with inline citations. Earwig says copyvio unlikely; there are a limited number of matches mostly to do with the gameplay and plot. (There were a couple of places where the article used future tense, like "players will be able to" which probably pre-dated the game's release, and should be updated now that the game is available.) Balances multiple viewpoints regarding the J.K. Rowling-related controversy. No QPQ is required. So the question mark is regarding the hooks: ALT0 checks out. ALT1 feels slightly misleading in that the article actually says that while the soundtrack took inspiration from John Williams, the composers also tried to forge their own style. ALT2 really should use the word "concurrent" because that is what the source says regarding the record number of viewers. @Vestigium Leonis: Could you please take another look at ALT1 and ALT2...? (It really might just be a matter of changing a couple of words in each.) Cielquiparle (talk) 21:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- I rephrased ALT1 and ALT2. Let me know what you think about it.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 08:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: ALT2 is better. It was just a little too wordy, so I've replaced "by garnering" with "with" above to shorten it. This leaves ALT1, which is definitely too wordy – "crafted to showcase" and "compositions of composer" are both unnecessarily clunky for a hook. One suggestion is to look at some of the *reviews* of the soundtrack itself, which may offer some choice quotes you could use in the hook; this is often the most attention-getting way to get "clicks" on entertainment-related articles (while maintaining the neutrality of "wikivoice"). So, for example, this GameRant review offers some possibilities like "... that Hogwarts Legacy was praised for making the player feel like the hero of the story "with just six notes"?" or any number of other quotes, but whatever you use in the hook must appear in the article as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: Another tip is to check out WP:DYKSTATS – click around, and you'll see huge tables which show which DYK hooks perform well and which ones don't. I just mention this because this seems like a strong article deserving of lots of views, and plenty of potential for an attention-getting hook, and the past examples may trigger more ideas. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input and sorry for the late reply, a bit too busy at the moment. I would like to revisit the sources to add more information about music at a later date and maybe add it to either release or reception section and just fixed the wording. I honestly preferred 0 and 2 anyways, but just wanted to give another option.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: Another tip is to check out WP:DYKSTATS – click around, and you'll see huge tables which show which DYK hooks perform well and which ones don't. I just mention this because this seems like a strong article deserving of lots of views, and plenty of potential for an attention-getting hook, and the past examples may trigger more ideas. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: ALT2 is better. It was just a little too wordy, so I've replaced "by garnering" with "with" above to shorten it. This leaves ALT1, which is definitely too wordy – "crafted to showcase" and "compositions of composer" are both unnecessarily clunky for a hook. One suggestion is to look at some of the *reviews* of the soundtrack itself, which may offer some choice quotes you could use in the hook; this is often the most attention-getting way to get "clicks" on entertainment-related articles (while maintaining the neutrality of "wikivoice"). So, for example, this GameRant review offers some possibilities like "... that Hogwarts Legacy was praised for making the player feel like the hero of the story "with just six notes"?" or any number of other quotes, but whatever you use in the hook must appear in the article as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I rephrased ALT1 and ALT2. Let me know what you think about it.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 08:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Phillips, Tom (13 January 2021). "Hogwarts Legacy delayed to 2022". Eurogamer. Archived from the original on 7 February 2023. Retrieved 21 February 2023.
- ^ Garcia, Jose (6 December 2022). "Hogwarts Legacy "Making The Music" Video Details How Challenging The Soundtrack Was To Create". DualShockers. Archived from the original on 1 March 2023. Retrieved 1 March 2023.
- ^ Smith, Ed (9 February 2023). "Hogwarts Legacy sets Twitch world record, beating Cyberpunk 2077". PCGamesN. Archived from the original on 9 February 2023. Retrieved 9 February 2023.
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Overall: Approve ALT0 and ALT2. BorgQueen (talk) 13:33, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your review. What is the final step of the DYK process? I am fine with using either ALT0 or ALT2, but would probably lean to ALT2.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, now we'll have to wait until someone promotes it to a Prep set. I've reviewed it so I can't promote it. Neither can Cielquiparle. It'll have to be someone else. BorgQueen (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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In the section Hogwarts_Legacy#Accolades in the table "Awards and nominations for Hogwarts Legacy" replace the column heading X "Ref" with Y "{{Ref heading}}" -- 193.178.96.170 (talk) 13:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Controversy?
[edit]huge discourse surrounding the controversies of this game have been left suspiciously absent.
Someone needs to add a section that lists the hate-groups which weaponized the game to attack others. I find it is important this article be held to the same standard as others, and it seems to me that a personal bias has protected this page from listing controversies due to favoritism.
Please, allow this article to display ALL cited sources that very clearly documented the online backlash as it happened. History is important to preserve, and controversy is important to the history of artwork. 2600:100A:B038:8F0:804D:75FF:FE7E:4BE9 (talk) 15:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- The game's article features a broad coverage of controversial aspects in the release section and also some further aspects in the reception section. I also am not sure what "huge discourse" is missing here. I did a quick research and do not find any coverage of reliable sources on the alleged hate groups that weaponize the game to attack others. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 22:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- If it's worth anything, around the time the game was released, someone made a website called "Have They Streamed THAT Wizard Game", which would track Twitch streamers who had streamed Hogwarts Legacy, with the purpose of harassing them. Some of the websites that have covered it include Twinfinite.net, Sportskeeda, GamingBible, and ClutchPoints. I have no idea if any of these count as reliable sources, but none of the sites I shared seem to be right-wing, "anti-woke" sites, at the very least. TuneyLoon (talk) 21:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- That part is already included, you can find it at the end of the release section. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 22:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it's worth anything, around the time the game was released, someone made a website called "Have They Streamed THAT Wizard Game", which would track Twitch streamers who had streamed Hogwarts Legacy, with the purpose of harassing them. Some of the websites that have covered it include Twinfinite.net, Sportskeeda, GamingBible, and ClutchPoints. I have no idea if any of these count as reliable sources, but none of the sites I shared seem to be right-wing, "anti-woke" sites, at the very least. TuneyLoon (talk) 21:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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