Talk:History of Jardine Matheson & Co.

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Chronological order

Private firm

In one para

"By 1830...retired to England in 1828"

Expansion

"By 1841... in 1834...In 1842...On 14 June 1841...

I have restructured the text so that the order is now (I think) correct. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 07:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Farrtj (talk) 12:32, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Is all the background on James Matheson and William Jardine necessary? Users can just click on the hyperlinks to visit their individual pages if they're interested. Farrtj (talk) 12:32, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since they were the pivotal figures in the formation of the firm, I don't think that it's unreasonable to have a summary paragraph on each. Their backgrounds are also important given the intricate web of connections that existed between the early players in the China trade. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 07:28, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article begins "Jardine, Matheson & Co" was...", yet this is quite misleading as the history goes right up to 2010. It implies that the company is now defunct, but the reality is its name is slightly different. In the lead, why not just refer to the company as Jardine Matheson? And then in the body, use the name that it was using at the time, ie "Jardine, Matheson & Co". Farrtj (talk) 11:33, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But there is a clause that separates the two and they were separate (legal) entities, ultimately succeeded by Jardine Matheson Holdings:

"Jardine Matheson & Co., later Jardine Matheson & Co. Ltd., forerunner of today's Jardine Matheson Holdings, was a Far Eastern trading company founded in 1832 with Scotsmen William Jardine and James Matheson as senior partners."

The "& Co." is important based on the involvement of other partners such as Magniac. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 11:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Among the buildings that can still be seen in East Point today is one of the old warehouses with the date 1843 engraved in the stone above the door.[clarification needed Is this still true?] " I've never heard of "East Point". It's next to impossible to have "old warehouses" still standing in Causeway Bay. Edchoi (talk) 03:15, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted @Edchoi:. That statement is probably left over from info taken from a 1950's brochure for JM. I too, doubt if it has survived and it could be rephrased along the lines of "Until the early 21st century ..." or such like. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 05:23, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Precursors

This source

<ref>{{citation |last=Adshead |first=Samuel Adrian Miles |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=DOxeCwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover |title=China in World History, ''2nd ed.'' |publisher=Palgrave Macmillan |isbn=978-0-333-62132-5 |date=1995 |p=[https://books.google.com/books?id=DOxeCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA274 274] }}.</ref>

states that Reid's work on behalf of the Austrian Empire's Asiatic Company of Trieste developed into the firm of Cox, Reid, & Beale, which "after several changes of partner" developed into Jardine, Matheson, and Co. Seems solid and interesting, but I don't want to add it to such a solid article without knowing exactly how it went together. Beale seems to have originally been one of the "Co." along with Magniac, but was he the link? or was there a process of people being bought out and he eventually bought in somewhere in the middle? — $Llywelyn II$ 16:17, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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