Talk:Hadassah Medical Center
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Sharon
[edit]Is sharon's hospitatlization relevant to this article? Why Sharon and no other notables who have been treated there? Is it relevant to the long term value of the article? I think not. Thoughts?--Cramer 11:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning that Sharon was hospitalized there. If you know other notables who were, there's nothing wrong with mentioning that either. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 17:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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Firing of Mahajana
[edit]User:Agmonsnir, when you first re-added this material after it had been removed, your explanation was "Might be correct, but not when coming from anonymous who cannot be a part of a discussion" - that is not a valid reason to undo an editor's work, as anonymous users are allowed to edit here just like anyone else - which is what I explained when I undid your restoration, However, when the anonymous editor removed it, they explained it with a summary that said "not clear why this trivia should be here and receive that much text, undue weight"- so it was not arbitrary, and I agree - this is undue weight for the incident". Users who want to add disrupted content need to get consensus for their edit, not the other way around. Red Slapper (talk) 17:06, 1 January 2023 (UTC) strike comments by sockpuppet -- dsprc [talk] 04:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- Anonymous users are welcome on Wikipedia, unless what they do might be disputed, and they cannot be a part of a discussion and defend their intentions (e.g., if their IP changes). The addition was made by a registered user, and if I recall correctly, it has been expanded by others, also registered users. It is very legitimate to say that the paragraph is too long in the context of the whole entry, and you are invited to rephrase the contents. But taking it all does not seem as the correct thing. Thanks, Agmonsnir (talk) 17:15, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
what is the policy that says an anonymous user can't be a part of a discussion? In my opinion, in the context of a medical center that has been in operation for nearly 100 years, this incident is not worthy of even a single sentence. Ask yourself- in 20 years- will anyone even remember it? Red Slapper (talk) 20:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)strike comments by sockpuppet -- dsprc [talk] 04:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)- I can see at least 2 or three paragraphs that may be irrelevant in 20 years. This is the nice thing about Wikipedia - it can have relevant information for today that can be deleted tomorrow. The case of Firing Mahajana is central to many today, staff and patients, and created lots of tensions (and the details are indeed, beyond the scope here), as well as opinion articles that were heated about the case and bashing/defending Hadassah. OK, let's be practical. I agree that the paragraph is far too detailed. If it is OK with you (or any other reader of the discussion), I will try to summarize the paragraph and make it shorter. Thanks Agmonsnir (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
ok , give it a shot. Red Slapper (talk) 18:42, 2 January 2023 (UTC)strike comments by sockpuppet -- dsprc [talk] 04:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)- Just did Agmonsnir (talk) 20:00, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Looks good to me, thanks. Red Slapper (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2023 (UTC)strike comments by sockpuppet -- dsprc [talk] 04:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just did Agmonsnir (talk) 20:00, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- I can see at least 2 or three paragraphs that may be irrelevant in 20 years. This is the nice thing about Wikipedia - it can have relevant information for today that can be deleted tomorrow. The case of Firing Mahajana is central to many today, staff and patients, and created lots of tensions (and the details are indeed, beyond the scope here), as well as opinion articles that were heated about the case and bashing/defending Hadassah. OK, let's be practical. I agree that the paragraph is far too detailed. If it is OK with you (or any other reader of the discussion), I will try to summarize the paragraph and make it shorter. Thanks Agmonsnir (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Mahajna, revisited
[edit]Now that he has been reinstated, I think it is time to revisit the notability of this issue. To summarize: an employee was accused of some wrongdoing, which he denied. He was temporarily suspended while an investigation and mediation process was launched. The process cleared him of wrongdoing, and he was reinstated. Why is any of this of encyclopedic value? Red Slapper (talk) 15:33, 17 January 2023 (UTC) strike comments by sockpuppet -- dsprc [talk] 04:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- I totally agree that (like in any similar rolling case in Wiki, as wars etc.), assuming that this is the end of the story, it is now time to summarize the story in a much shorter version. Definitely, there is no need to 10 citations (!), 1-2 max, in which all the details appear. Yet, if you Google in Hebrew or in English "Hadassah", you will see how much coverage and importance this case had on issues of medical care in time of conflicts in general and in Hadassah. I will try to do the summary when I have time (or do it yourself, if it is OK with you). Maybe in a year, it will be totally redundant.... Agmonsnir (talk) 17:35, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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