Talk:Grigoriopol transmitter

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1. I would not use AOKI (or EIBI, or HFCC) as a source for a fact, as they show possible transmissions only, not confirmed. In fact, all of the shortwave transmissions from here were shut in summer-autumn 2021.
2. All of the transmissions from this point never exceeded 300 kW during last years (for economic reasons).
3. The attack has destroyed 2 shortwave antennae, which are out of use for years. It never touches any midwave broadcast, where all the Russian radios are, including Vesti FM - they all are on the air. --Figure19 (talk) 17:16, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 April 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 03:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grigoriopol transmitter → Transnistrian Radio and Television Center – This is the official name of the facility. Using this name is like calling the Eiffel Tower as "Paris tower". Most people would probably still know what does it refer to, but it's not its proper name. Super Ψ Dro 17:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 晚安 (トークページ) 15:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:45, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question: I have also seen it referred to as the "Mayak Radio and Television Center" [1]. Have you taken that into consideration, and if so, why should we go with your proposed title? ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That link doesn't work for me. Anyway, "Mayak Radio and Television Center" gives me 201 Google results while "Transnistrian Radio and Television Center" gives me 389, so it would appear to be the WP:COMMONNAME. There's also the website pmr.md [2], potentially related to the Transnistrian Government, which is referring to this transmitter as such [3]. Super Ψ Dro 16:16, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The link I gave is to the Transnistrian government statement on the bombing. For me, it loads if I refresh it after getting the 505 error. I'm guessing "Transnistrian" is not part of the official name since that's not an official name for the country. It might still be the COMMONNAME, but you said the reason for the move was because it's the official name, and I don't think that's the case. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:41, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The official name doesn't include "Transnistrian" because Transnistria is referred to as "Pridnestrovie" in Russian. However, Transnistria is the most common name for the republic in English (which is what matters in the context of Wikipedia), and "Pridnestrovian Radio and Television Center" gets less results than the other two options, 113 more precisely (in my case). And yes, I now managed to enter the website, and I can see that it includes the words Приднестровский радиотелецентр, literally translated by Google as "Pridnestrovian Radio and Television Center". Super Ψ Dro 16:48, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, I support

the move. I just wanted to make sure those concerns were addressed. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I get more than 2000 ghits for "Grigoriopol transmitter" -wikipedia and the first few pages all look relevant. Here is one just as a sample. The suggestion that this is in any way similar to calling the Eiffel Tower as "Paris tower" - who does that? - is ridiculous. Nor is the argument that the current title is not its proper name at all relevant in terms of policy. Andrewa (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There is a clear crisis over the commonness of the proposed name and that needs to be addressed. Jhy.rjwk (talk) 04:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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