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Merge proposal

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to merge. Mertbiol (talk) 08:23, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I propose merging Guildford Civic Hall into G Live.
The Civic Hall was closed in 2004 and the site was redeveloped for G Live, which opened in 2011. At present, the Civic Hall article is very short and it appears unlikely that it will be expanded beyond a stub in the foreseeable future. (There is very little information online about the pre-2004 venue in reliable sources.)
There is considerable WP:OVERLAP between the two pages at present; the closure of the Civic Hall and opening of G Live are dealt with in both articles at the moment.
Please discuss and feel free to support or oppose. Mertbiol (talk) 18:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 18:55, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
oppose, I see no reason whatsoever to do so. Evangp (talk) 20:22, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Evangp: Could you explain why you oppose in more detail please? I have given some reasons above, so you need to engage with those and to say why you think they are not valid or sufficiently strong for a merge. You say on Commons that you are a "professional concert venue researcher and archivist", in which case I would expect you to provide a more thoroughly reasoned rationale for keeping separate articles. What information have you been able to find on the venues?
If you are not local and/or familiar with the history, then it is worth me explaining that the Civic Hall was demolished and G Live was then built in its place - on exactly the same site. The Civic Hall is very much part of the G Live story, which is why it is already covered in the G Live article. This has obviously led to considerable WP:OVERLAP between the two pages, which it would not be possible to eliminate, given both the chronology and the common location. Since both are local entertainment venues in a mid-sized English town, there is relatively little to say about them. We are not talking about historic theatres or opera houses in a major city here. (In addition, Guildford has a separate theatre - the Yvonne Arnaud Theatre - and G Live is not even the primary entertainment venue in the town.)
Best wishes, Mertbiol (talk) 11:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's a different building Evangp (talk) 10:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not completely, which is rather the point. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 10:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]