Talk:Fatimid architecture
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 22, 2013. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Fatimid Caliphs built mosques in the Fatimid architecture style, such as al-Azhar Mosque (pictured), in Mahdia, Al-Mansuriya and Cairo? |
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Reviewer: Tim riley (talk · contribs) 12:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll have a go at this one. More soonest. Tim riley (talk) 12:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't think this review is going to take long. After a first read-through I am impressed, and have few quibbles.
- Comments to the end of Mausoleums
- Layout: I am told by a Wikipedia luminary that it is pointless trying to get a layout of pictures and text that fits all the sizes of screens now in use, what with hand-held devices and suchlike. But I will just point out (and leave it at that) that on my fairly standard 2011 vintage laptop there are two long gaps of white space:
- Between the header Al-Azhar Mosque and the related text.
- Ditto at Al-Hakim Mosque
- Follow up or not as you think best.
- Any better? Probably the main article template cocking that up.
- Spelling: I am unsure whether you intend UK or US spelling. You have "storey" and "metres" but also "honor".
- Changed to honour, not using meters!!
- Lead: Excellent. I am not good at writing leads, and I fume enviously at such a well thought-out and well-constructed one as this.
- Thankyou, although don't be too fuming so as to top my into my own piranha pool!
- Origins
- "a descendant in the eighth generation of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. He claimed descent from the prophet's daughter" – I felt that "claimed" at the second mention of descent rather clashed with the unequivocal "a descendant" just before it.
Reworded into one sentence, claimed.
- Palaces
- "a curtain like the rulers of the Abbasids" – it wasn't the curtain that resembled those rulers, I assume. Perhaps "a curtain, as the rulers of the Abbasids [etc] did" – or some such. And oughtn't "Byzantine" here be "Byzantines" plural?
- Done.
- Oh no it isn't! Tim riley (talk) 09:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done.
More anon; meanwhile I repeat, it's looking pretty good. – Tim riley (talk) 12:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Tim, I appreciate you talking the time. Will look into this shortly.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:59, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Second and final batch
- Mosques
- The OED does not know the word "facade" and insists on "façade".
- Done.
- WP:OVERLINK – Byzantine blue-linked for the third time here.
- Done.
- Great Mosque of Mahdiya
- "This is the first example of" – the first known one, presumably, or is this provable?
First known one.
- Al-Azhar Mosque
- "The first prayers were held in the mosque in 972, and in 989 the mosque authorities hired 35 scholars, making the mosque a teaching center for Shia theology" – Was this building a mosque, by any chance? And I see you have lapsed into American spelling of center.
- No, the mosque was built in 970. A teaching centre was established in 989 at the mosque. I think this is clear? Changed center to centre.
- "Minor improvements … significant improvements – Changes, no doubt, but who says they were improvements?
- Done.
- Al-Hakim Mosque
- Format of date ranges: "In 1002-3" does not comply with your practice elsewhere
Done.
- "Recently it has been reconstructed – rather vague: when was this done? Please also go through the article and replace hyphens in date ranges with en-dashes.
- Since been reconstructed. Not sure of date. Can you do it for me not sure exactly what you mean?
- Bab al-Nasr
- unexpected and otiose blue link of gate after dozens of earlier unlinked mentions
- Done
- Bab Zuweila
- "It is considered to be one of the major landmarks of the city" – by whom?
- Removed
- Restorations and modern mosques
- WP:OVERLINK Mamluk repeat link
- Done
- "the committee of conservation" – first we've heard of this body. The city's committee? The national committee?
- I'll let Aymatth address that one
- This reference [1] (page 330) gives info on the "Committee for the Conservation of Monuments of Arab Art (usually known as the Comité) was created in 1881. I have fixed this reference in the article.--Nvvchar. 14:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- "the Hindi faith" – isn't Hindi a language, and Hindu the faith?
- Hindu, quite right LOL!
- "The result is what could be termed "Neo-Fatimid" architecture" – no doubt it could, but has it been, by a reliable source?
- I'll let Aymatth address that one♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- I have fixed a book reference [2] to the "Neo-Fatimid" style..--Nvvchar. 13:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'll let Aymatth address that one♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
That's all. Please consider. Tim riley (talk) 09:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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Good stuff! Tim riley (talk) 16:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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Which "Cairo Mosque"?
[edit]In the second paragraph there is mention of "the Cairo Mosque"; what mosque is that? Al-Azhar I presume? This should be specified, as no building is really referred to as "the Cairo Mosque".
See: "Al-Aziz Billah (ruled 975–996) is [...] credited with at least thirteen major landmarks including the completion of the Great Palaces, the Cairo Mosque, [...]"
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