Talk:Far-right leagues
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[edit]The title of this article needs to be changed. It is ambiguous. I suggest a split in French nationalist leagues and French fascist leagues. Intangible 18:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- This is ridiculous. Please stop trolling around and trying to delete the word "far right" from everywhere. Tazmaniacs 19:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- This the English language wikipedia, not the French one. In using the English language at Wikipedia, one needs to avoid words which can impute a value judgement. See also, Wikipedia:Words to avoid. Intangible 19:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Irrelevant. You achieved convincing me on the necessity of User:Cberlet's workplace idea. You are going to get blocked, go on if you wish so... You seemed wiser. Tazmaniacs 19:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- This the English language wikipedia, not the French one. In using the English language at Wikipedia, one needs to avoid words which can impute a value judgement. See also, Wikipedia:Words to avoid. Intangible 19:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Date or prime minister is wrong.
[edit]Article says:
- Whatever the case, all far right leagues were dissolved on 18 January 1936 by Socialist leader Léon Blum, whom had recently been elected as president of the Council and lead the Popular Front government.
But Pierre Laval was still prime minister on 18 January 1936, and the Popular Front didn't come into office until June. john k 01:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- True. I'm not sure, but it seems that if the law was voted on 10 January 1936 (French Senate's website), it does appears that it was the Popular Front who dissolved them. As there is always some time between the vote of a law & its implementation by a decree, I assume this explains the mistake. I'll try to look for serious references. Tazmaniacs 15:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- This site states that paramilitary organizations were outlawed in December 1935, then speak of the 10 January 1936 law, and then dates the dissolving of the leagues (specifically, Croix-de-Feu, Solidarité Française, Jeune Patrie and francistes) to 19 June 1936. This other site quotes a Communist deputy, Gaston Cornavin, who wrote in L'Emancipateur on 9 May 1936:
Il va falloir appliquer sans tarder et sans faiblesse les lois qui visent au désarmement et à la dissolution des ligues fascistes dont nous avons apporté les preuves de leur préparation de la guerre civile.
This implies that the January laws had not been implemented yet. The Nouvel Observateur states in this article that the Popular Front dissolved the league. The dissolving of the league is also an aim stated by Marceau Pivert on 27 May 1936 in Le Populaire ([1]). The dissolving of the leagues was in the electoral program of the Popular Front. Note 8 here specifically names the decree of dissolving of the Leagues, enacted by the Popular Front (décret Régnier — interestingly enough, this allusion to the décret Régnier comes from Messali Hadj who criticized its application to the North-African Star). This other site explains the hiatus: the Action française seems to have been dissolved on 13 February 1936 while the other leagues (above mentioned) were dissolved on 18 June 1936 — three days later François de la Rocque created the Parti Social Français. Radio France here mentions the dissolving of the leagues in June 1936, which was implemented by Interior Minister Roger Salengro, afterward attacked and pushed to suicide by far-right newspaper Grégoire. Tazmaniacs 15:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. Seems like we should have an article about Salengro, huh? john k 16:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Title needs changing and I will do it.
[edit]The title does not even mention France!
"Far right leagues" could be about the John Birch Society, or the British Union of Fascists, or Kach, or Shiv Sena, or the Black Hundreds.
--Rich Rostrom (Talk) 01:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Category:French far right leagues is itself a category within Category:Far right politics in France. — Robert Greer (talk) 17:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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