Talk:Fano (militia)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Similarities or differences with Qeerroo

@ItsLife1 and MfactDr: I think that some comparison between Fano and Qeerroo makes sense, but that would be better first done in the body of the article, based on sources. The Ethiopia Insight article by René Lefort mentions Fano and Qeerroo together, twice, but that's not a real comparison. A comparison doesn't make sense in the lead, it seems to me, at least at the moment, based on the sources that we have.

It's clear that there's a common thread of mostly young people organising in loose groups. NYMFD seems to be a named, organised Qeerroo group. Solomon Atanaw seems to be identified as the leader of a defined 'Fano' group. Given that the 'Fano' name has been used to describe people responsible for peace, we cannot just say that Fano and Qeerroo are "counterparts". So I suggest that more sourced info should first go into the body of the article, if it justifies a comparison (what's similar) or contrast (what's different). Boud (talk) 04:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Boud I agree on what you said!  Before dubbed qeerroo as a counterpart of fano has to be sourced.  As you said both parties have completely opposite profiles. Thanks for starting this discussion MfactDr (talk) 10:18, 8 February 2021 (UTC) 

Take down fake news

Posting claiming Amhara military killing Amhara citizens is lie True post https://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Mai_Kadra_massacre Billyfraps (talk) 17:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Who is allowing this falsified description of Fano to exist on Wiki!? How is this possible?

This page is riddled with false propaganda about Fano, including the implication of them committing massacres that they NEVER committed. This "Fano(nationalist movement)" page is made in an effort to demonize and discredit an organization that is actually trying to SAVE millions of ethnic Amharas who are subject to massacres and genocide. How can Wikipedia allow such made up information in its platform? Where is the oversight here? Can I just wake up in the morning, decide to tell the world that the sky is pink, and have a wikipedia page stating that my fiction is an actual fact? This is real life. FANO is currently fighting in the Ethiopian/Tigray war, trying to save Amharas from being hunted by Tigray's Liberation Front (TPLF). Wikipedia, at the very least, needs to have active oversight of pages concerning such current and high profile topics like the Ethiopian war and entities involved in this war such as Fano. You have responsibility to actively monitor the pages describing these very organizations so that they are ACCURATE and not being used by evil entities for their own propaganda. This is ridiculous, Wikipedia. A bad image for your brand. We understand that you have a lot of pages to manage, but this is a high profile and current topic with lots of entities with propagandas who can spread false information through your platform. We ask you to fix this issue and fix this page so that it has accurate information. If you need time to verify that all the fake accusations against Fano are indeed false, you need to take this false and destructive page down temporarily - then repost it with ACCURATE information. No information is better than false information. What you are allowing to happen is destructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yodit legesse (talk • contribs) 04:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources to improve the article, feel free to edit.Rastakwere (talk) 07:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 December 2021

Fano was not responsible for the massacre in Maikadra. The terrorist groups TPLF and ONG are responsible for this massacre. They are ethnically cleansing Amharas. 71.127.33.39 (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:02, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

🤦🏽‍♀️ blaming the victims

🤦🏽‍♀️ can you please correct this it's very sad and disrespectful for the victims and those of us that had relatives that had died in this massacre Please read and research before posting this kind of sensitive subjects

The total death toll remains unclear, but according to Amnesty International, "likely hundreds" were killed.[6] Two videos, which were analyzed by Amnesty International to prove that the massacre had taken place, show dozens of corpses with injuries caused by bladed weapons, like machetes. According to the EHRC, which described the massacre as a "widespread and systematic attack directed against a civilian population" at least 600 people were killed; EHRCO counted 1100 deaths. Most of the victims were Amhara according to the EHRC and EHRCO reports 2601:646:9703:7460:0:0:0:CCEC (talk) 08:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

It's completely unclear what edit is proposed here, especially as the quote does not seem to be from this article. Boud (talk) 17:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 December 2021

Fano is a freedom fighter group youth or elders. Protector for civilian. Mikadra killing is by TPLF rather Fano stopped further killing by fighting TPLF Samri youth killer groups. So Fano is not related to any massacre. 173.66.151.110 (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Error needs to be corrected

Fano is not accused of MaiKadra massacre. The MaiKadra massacre was conducted by TPLF’s Samri group. 2601:2C1:8800:5490:E57C:AD96:DD37:25AC (talk) 17:15, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

19 Dec 2021 unsigned comment

Fanos are the protectors of humanity it's a name used by Adawa fighters in the past now Amhara fanos are fighting TPLF/tigray nationalists who are committing countles atrocities. Fanos save thousands of women from getting raped and killed by tplf/tigray terror group yet the whole world kept silent like the Armenian genocide for one hundred years. But the amhara fanos kept their words and saved those who suffer in the hands of terrorists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amhara aquila (talk • contribs) 03:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

False information and article ( its illegal to publish hate and false information)

This is a false publication article that is purely conveying incorrect and hateful messages that is far beyond the actual truth on hand.

It should be illegal to make false accusations and push violence against civilians who are self defending them self because the evading of the terrorist organization Tplf or Tdf which is raping and committing massacre in the Amhara region on the Amhara people as of now and since the past couple of months. Tplf is causeing terrorism and killing thousands in the Amhara region whom the local people and civilians ( Fano ) are trying to protect themselves from this terrorists and losing their family due to attack and attrocities committed by the Tplf who is responsible for all this mess and massacre. 208.98.222.58 (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 December 2021

The whole point of the page is to demonize, degrade, dehumanize and sway the current reality on the ground for a political purpose. Wikipedia is an open-source and public-based resource should not be used by extreme ethnic-based haters to portray a group of people as killers, evils, and war-mongers. Wikipedia is losing its reputation of being a platform that supports evidence-based writing by giving edition protection for this page. Wikipedia should remove these pages as the intention of the page is to demonize millions of people in Ethiopia. 2601:601:9300:570:0:0:0:1343 (talk) 03:33, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Not done: It's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 December 2021 (2)

Fano is did not participate in Maicadra Massacre. This has been proved by UNHRC and Ethiopian Humana Rights Commission joint inveatigation which revealed that the massacre was committed and directed by the tigrai people liberation front. There is nothing called Kimant assacre. Generally the post is written by a person or persons with bad intention and hatred for the Amhara people. 176.204.152.75 (talk) 08:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ue3lman (talk) 08:51, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 December 2021

Wikipedia displayed VERY biased information about Fano national movement. It's not as you mentioned! Other ethnic extremists other than Amhara or foreigners miss guided you to have a negative understanding of Fano. The true definition is far beyond your statement! It's a national movement for freedom, democracy, and colonization; just like 'Qeerroo'. Please edit your article as soon as possible as it is a very sensitive topic probably against more than 100 million people of Ethiopia and diasporas abroad. 160.15.13.180 (talk) 15:21, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LakesideMiners^{Come Talk To Me!} 15:50, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

The Article about Fano

I have seen the article you wrote about Fanoo it is totally false accussation the terrorist organization called TPLF & OLFvtry to destroy z country thanks for National defense force together with Fano protect our country 196.189.95.244 (talk) 15:55, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Fake article of Fano (National Movement)

Below is a quote from the OHCHR and EHRC joint report and it only accuses Fano for killing 5 Tigrayans and that's the only direct and specific accusation on Fano, is it right to accuse Fano for committing a massacre based on that statement? Here's the link to the report: https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/ia9FOwFReBEl

"Unlawful killings and extra-judicial executions: The ENDF, EDF, Fano (group affiliated to the Amhara militia), TSF and affiliated militia, the Samri (local Tigrayan youth group), have committed unlawful killings and extra-judicial executions amounting to violations and abuses of international human rights and international humanitarian law, as well as violations of the Constitution and laws of Ethiopia. Persons taking no direct part in hostilities were wilfully killed by parties to the conflict, including ethnic-based killings of more than two hundred Amharas, mostly men, in Maikadra by the Samri accompanied by Tigrayan police and militia on 9November 2020, as well as the retaliatory killing of at least five Tigrayans by the Fano" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abiysite (talk • contribs) 19:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

The article below about Fano (National Movement) is fake and Wikipedia should not post such an article about a group of people that represent 10's of millions of people (Amharas) without no evidence and prevent the article from being edited. This article should not be edited, it should be taken down and verified information shall be posted! Thankyou!

"Fano members are accused of participating in ethnic massacres, including that of 58 Qemant people in Metemma during 10–11 January 2019.[2] They are also accused of participating in the Mai Kadra massacre, which Amnesty International, the Ethiopian Human Rights Commission, and the Ethiopian Human Rights Council attributed to local Tigrayan youths,[4][5] and in the Humera massacre, during the 2020 Tigray conflict.[6][7] In March 2020, the leader of one of the groups called Fano, Solomon Atanaw, stated that the Fano would not disarm until Benishangul-Gumuz Region's Metekel Zone and the Tigray Region districts of Welkait and Raya are placed under the control of Amhara Region". Abiysite (talk) 18:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 December 2021

Fano is did not participate in Maicadra Massacre. This has been proved by UNHRC and Ethiopian Humana Rights Commission joint inveatigation which revealed that the massacre was committed and directed by the tigrai people liberation front. There is nothing called Kimant assacre. Generally the post is written by a person or persons with bad intention and hatred for the Amhara people

Reliable sources https://www.Amnesty International investigationamnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/11/ethiopia-investigation-reveals-evidence-that-scores-of-civilians-were-killed-in-massacre-in-tigray-state/  reported TPLF is responsible for Mai-Kadra massacre Ethiopia18 (talk) 14:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. There is sourcing for claims Fano was involved as well. The article covers both sides of the reporting on the massacre. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 December 2021

Most of the contents on this page are makeups. I noticed 76% of the content is created based on hate to fano. Masresha7890 (talk) 23:01, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Leased a page for 1 year for TPLF, terrorist group

Wikipedia leased a page for TPLF, a terrorist group with a long time plan to cleanse Amhara ethnic group, since 1970s. Today in 2021/22 TPLF waged war against Amhara, Afar and Ethiopia with a clear aim of destroying Ethiopia and cleaning Amhara people from the surface. Following an attack on the Northern Command of the Ethiopian National Defence Force, TPLF has committed genocide on Maikdra, mass massacre of Amharas. Then TPLF invaded northern and eastern Amhara committing atrocities: mass killing, rape, destroying churching, mosques, health facilities including hospitals, infrastructure with a lot of vandalism. However Ethiopian government, reactionary in principle has declared a unilateral cease fire in many occasions, TPLF still is invading Afar and Amhara areas neighboring Tigrai. When I’m talking about invasion, I’m talking about rape and massacres every single day by TPLF forces on Amhara and Afar people enforcing tplf’s long term plan, cleansing Amhara and anyone standing against their plan in any form.

In this page Wikipedia allowed TPLF to disseminate a false narrative that FANO is a terrorist group, while in fact it is the Fano/ Amhara who are the targets of TPLF cleansing. What’s frustrating is Wikipedia is widely known as a website not reliable because anybody can edit it, this time Wikipedia has locked this page after a TPLFite has put a wrong information to misinform low caliber readers, who do do not have information that Wikipedia is trash. There are billions of visitors of Wikipedia who don’t really perceive Wikipedia is just fool of false narrative when it comes to such sensitive subjects. What is ironic is locking a page after they inserted such a defamatory and inflammatory, sensitive info. This is nothing other than participating in a genocidal plan by TPLF since the second half of the 20th century. So, Wikipedia need to remove this page asap or at least unlock the page so that concerned people can react or the world can hear from the victims as well. 2603:8081:2501:E58F:9438:9943:1BE0:AD3B (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I would suggest that you check the references in the article and look through WP:VERIFIABILITY to better understand how Wikipedia works. You've made a good start by coming to the Talk page; you can also check the History page and editors' explanations for their edits. And then I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Edit requests and make a specific request for a change that you think should be made. Please also assume good faith.

Just briefly on the content that you've mentioned: the TPLF does have a history of responsibility for human rights violations, and the current war does include some human rights violations by the TDF. But this article is not about the TPLF or the TDF, it's about Fano, according to the multiple definitions of what Fano actually is. If you have good sources, then that would help to improve the quality of this article.

Thanks! Boud (talk) 23:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)'

issue with (nationalist movement)

@Boud: You created this article. Fano is a militia and a protest movement according to the sources. In which sources does it exactly say it is a nationalist movement? Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dawit S Gondaria: I created it, but other people have modified it. You can check the record, but I don't remember putting "nationalist movement" in the lead. In the case of Ethiopia, I would expect that it's especially difficult to work out what "nationalist" means (pro-region? pro-ethnic group? pro-federal state? pro-return-to-an-empire? pro-Ethiopia-without-defining-what-Ethiopia-is?). If a source uses the expression, then it might have to be quoted or given an explanation as to what the author really means. Boud (talk) 01:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Boud: Apologies i looked up the first edit[[1]] it displayed the current title. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

sources that say (nationalist movement)

References

Requested move 16 March 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 11:51, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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Fano (nationalist movement) → Fano (militia) – A blocked sock moved this article from Fano (militia) to Fano (nationalist movement) [[2]] the reasoning given in the edit summary:●its characterization as a militia is highly disputed also doesn't hold up most sources refer Fano as a militia. The sources in this article (as far i read) doesn't say nationalist movement. WP:COMMONNAME applies here, unless others can substiante the current name over militia. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 06:05, 17 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 19:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeneralNotability: Hello. i want to move the page back to it's first name > Fano (militia), but it's restricted. See my arguments above. I also opened a subsection in [[3]] Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 09:07, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Dawit S Gondaria, I don't care what the name is (and have no idea why you're involving me - if I protect a page, I'm almost never going to get editorially involved in it), and the page is only under extended-confirmed move protection (so you could move it if you want). With that in mind, this sounds potentially controversial, so I'd recommend making a move request to start a discussion. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@GeneralNotability: I couldn't move the page back to Fano (militia), despite being extended autoconfirmed. Your name was up there, hence why i involved you. I'll try requested moves instead. Good day Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

• Weak support: I suppose it's a more accurate npov title. --Spekkios (talk) 23:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Spekkios: this has so far minimal engagement from other editors, so thank you for your contribution! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 16:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

• Weak Support: While it is technically a nationist movement, it is more notable for its more violent/militant acts. The term "nationalist movement" also makes it seem more peaceful than it actually is. Wowzers122 (talk) 17:28, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Wowzers122: There is nothing in the sources that says it's a nationalist movement, the title is misleading and is based on some editors guess work. The term Fano has several etymology, including being an old Amhara martial song, it's history of militant fighting is more recent but still goes back at least to Italy's occupation of Ethiopia. As for violence, war is not fought with flowers. Sources are there Fano contributed in defending Ethiopian territorial integrity from Tigrayan and Oromo separatist. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 17:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wrong and misleading information perpetuated by hate , racist and genocidal thoughts

This information must be edited by Amhara associations and Amara peoples but now it has been hijacked by TPLF and TDF enemy of ethiopian peoples to mislead the public.

Truth for Amhara Truth for Amhara Truth for Amhara Truth for Amhara 2600:8806:6304:500:E5C5:5E9F:56C0:19B9 (talk) 07:07, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 April 2022 (3)

Fano (Amharic ፋኖ ) is a historical term used in Ethiopian struggles against injustice and foreign invaders. It is mainly shown as a youth movement that has played a significant role in preserving the concept of Ethiopian nationhood. As a youth group, it has emerged from within the Amhara ethnic group and has features reminiscent of classical political, religious, or even social movements that drive youthful frustrations into acts of agitation until they achieve a measure of reform. Mckonnen (talk) 08:26, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

  Traditionally, the Fano or  ፋኖ  struggle had focused on fending off attacks against Ethiopia. In recent years, Fano has become a household name and a crucial movement tasked with saving the very existence of the Amhara population as well as the integrity of Ethiopia. In this, it differs from other similar youth movements in the country, whose aim is to dismember the Ethiopian state into ethnic components. Fano is made of a defiant and patriotic youth which is able to shoulder an Ethiopia that is arising from the ashes bequeathed to them. This revolutionary generation and movement has to be nurtured. Fano is not just an embodiment of the physical defiance but also an intellectual movement that abhors ethnic fascism, narrow nationalism, apartheid policies, internal colonialism and all forms of pseudo-legal acts of political corruption. Instead, it upholds a civic sense of public duty, patriotism and vision for the good of the entire country.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ue3lman (talk) 10:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 April 2022

157.193.240.222 (talk) 10:52, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

The information about Fano is completely false narrative. Fano is not a genocider rather it protects civilians from terrorist's attack. This false narration should be edited.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 April 2022 (2)

196.190.121.255 (talk) 12:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

this is a very biased explanation about Fano. Fano never did the crimes mentioned there.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Remove this page about Fano as it accuses 50 million + Amhara people that are Fano and are facing an active genocide in Ethiopia.

This page accuse Fano, which is another name for Amhara people that fights terrorism and defends the country from foreign invasion. Accusing Fano of war crime is accusing 50 million + Amhara people. I urgently demand this page about Fano to be removed or edited in a rightful manner. 78.82.128.39 (talk) 11:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

False article and false story (unreliable Page)

Remove this article. Fano is wrongly described here. Fano is the child of Strong Amhara. Fano did not participate in any Genocide activities rather they protect their people from enemies. The Mai-Kadara Genocide was carried out by tigrayan forces in which several Amhara peoples including Fanos faced death which can be considered as a Genocide carried out by tigrayan forces to Amhara Peoples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.189.69.68 (talk) 09:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Please include information on recent terrorism in Gonder

Please include details about the allegations that Fano militiamen are behind the recent attacks on Muslims in Gonder. https://addisstandard.com/news-at-least-three-killed-in-attack-on-mourners-at-funeral-of-prominent-local-sheik-in-gonder-amhara-state/ 73.100.127.159 (talk) 05:52, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Stop wasting people's time, the source doesn't mention Fano. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:39, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Check liveuamap. ```` 73.100.127.159 (talk) 18:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

FANO

FANO is a collective name for people who are ethnically Amhara and engaged in different economic or professional sectors. This means FANO Could be a farmer, secretary, lawyer, researcher, cleaning, businessman, medical doctor, politician, Muslim, Christian or atheist, etc. So there is no clear representation of FANO. And they are highly passionate, complements, courageous, and devoted to the peace and security of the country (Ethiopia). This collective name has been used as a group name since a war going on between patriotic Ethiopians and Europeans or other expansionists on the other side. Recently, this group has been reorganized to stop and save Amhara ethnic group from extinction, and the region from disappearing. There was a genocide happening in Mikadra (by TPLF/TDF), WolLega (OLF/OLA/ WOBO, PP, Shenie), Arbagugu (By OLF),Enkuftu,chelenko etc. Therefore FANO is a collective group that reorganizes to defend the ongoing orchestrated genocide and atrocities against Amhara. However, with known and clear conspiracy, and Without any tangible evidence about FANO, the article called "FANO (Militia)" is published on Wikipedia and we considered it as defamation and misrepresentation of FANO and most importantly it's against the norm and value of AMHARA and we kindly request you to take it down and correct your article. ......Literally, FANO has never been part of any violence and atrocities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.223.110.160 (talk) 18:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2022

This information is completly statrd wrongly

please open the edition dialog box — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.189.182.147 (talk) 16:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Fano: A living saviour of the Amhara people and the Ethiopia|n spirit

This page accuse Fano, which is another name for Amhara people that fights terrorism and defends the country from foreign invasion. Accusing Fano of war crime is accusing 50 million + Amhara people. I urgently demand this page about Fano to be removed or edited in a rightful manner Ethiopiawit (talk) 21:32, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 May 2022

Amien zat (talk) 10:50, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

This page accuse Fano, which is another name for Ethiopian people that fights terrorism and defends the country from foreign invasion. I urgently demand this page about Fano to be removed or edited in a rightful manner

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:59, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 May 2022

In the article, Fano is described as having been accused of the Mai Kadra Massacre. Instead the article should state that the Mai Kadra massacre was committed by TPLF’s Tigrayan forces — who targeted and massacred Amhara civilians.

Here is the source for correcting that the Mai Kadra Massacre was in fact committed by TPLF and not Fano as the current Wikipedia article wrongly states. Nebakeaddis (talk) 22:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Note: Closed as duplicate of an edit request from the 5th of May. Please use said previous edit request from now on. Aidan9382 _(talk) 18:52, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2022 (3)

{{POV}} Nebakeaddis (talk) 04:20, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Aidan9382 _(talk) 16:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

If you read the talk pages it is clear this is a very contested article. There is no consensus who fano is, what fano stands for and history of fano. This article does not allow easy edit to correct the wrong. So the article should include {{POV}} so that it shows the neutrality of the article is disputed. orangeflow (talk) 04:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Nebakeaddis: Just because the article is contested, it does not follow that the current text is not neutral. —C.Fred (talk) 12:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Its contested because the article is wrong and clearly edited by people who hate fano and wikipedia has blocked users who can correct it. Its necessary to show that article is not correct and not edited by users that are not neutral to Fano for the people who view this page. orangeflow (talk) 00:21, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Sources in the article need verification.

The sources in the article potentially need verification, especially when it comes to claims of massacres, and whether sources explicitly accuse Fano. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 14:39, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 May 2022

Fano is the group to protect Ethiopians from racist TPLF and May Kadira massacre is done by TPLF rerefer the Ethiopian human rights commission report. Tadessefe (talk) 12:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 17:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Fano

https://www.eurasiareview.com/02022022-fano-a-living-saviour-of-the-amhara-people-and-the-ethiopian-spirit-analysis/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.234.50.255 (talk) 17:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Wrong and misleading information perpetuated by hate , racist and genocidal thoughts

Wrong and misleading information perpetuated by hate , racist and genocidal thoughts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.234.50.255 (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 May 2022

“Fano members are accused of participating in ethnic massacres.” This is false statements. Fano is Ethiopia. Fano is those who love their country and fight for their country. We are Amhara but first and foremost we are Ethiopian.

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2022

In the article, Fano is described as having been accused of the Mai Kadra Massacre. Instead the article should state that the Mai Kadra massacre was committed by TPLF’s Tigrayan forces — who targeted and massacred Amhara civilians.

24.148.9.33 (talk) 04:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Here is your source for correcting that the Mai Kadra Massacre was in fact committed by TPLF and not Fano as the current Wikipedia article wrongly states.

https://ehrc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Maikadra-Preliminary-Findings-English-1.pdf Nebakeaddis (talk) 02:06, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Unarchived as still open. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:47, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2022 (2)

The article wrongly states that Fano was created or birthed in the 2010s.

There is no birthdate for Fano as being a Fano goes back to Hundreds even thousands of years. The article should state the following instead. Fano is a historical term used in Ethiopian struggles against injustice and foreign invaders. It is mainly shown as a movement that has played a significant role in preserving the concept of Ethiopian nationhood. As a group, it has emerged from within the Amhara ethnic group and has features of reminiscent of classical political, religious, or even social movements that drive peoples frustrations into acts of self-defence until they achieve a measure of reform. Traditionally, the Fano struggle had focused on fending off attacks against Ethiopia.

Nebakeaddis (talk) 04:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Unarchived as still open. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:47, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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March 2022 incident Benishangul-Gumuz incident

A paywalled reuters source was (mis)used that didn't mention Fano.

Only guardian (and opinion sites based on Guardian article) says some are thought to be Fano's Though the article doesn't say who the researchers are. According to other reliable sources (Reuters, DW, Al-Jaazera) says it's uniformed soldiers, and regional forces. [[4]] [5] [6] It doesn't appear Guardian source is more prominent/reliable than the other three. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 03:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Given the seriousness of the accusations, I don't think the overly vague statement in the Guardian warrants inclusion here unless the accusations are explicitly attributed, particularly as multiple reliable sources attribute the crimes to other actors. Also, a thought or belief is not of the same level of severity as an accusation, which is what that section is intended for. Efekadu (talk) 22:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm removing this incident from the FANO article, unless other editors are making the case it should be included, in that case discussion should be directed here. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 10:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I agree. "Researchers" seems to be an attempt to sound less weaselly than "analysts", which is meant to sound more serious than "some say..." or "my friend's cousin's teacher's neighbour's well-informed colleague said". After all, researchers often have university research jobs, while "analysts" just get ... cited in the media. Boud (talk) 23:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Infobox issue, unsourced claim of allegiance.

An infobox was added by an IP, with unverified claim of allegiance to the Ethiopian National Defense Force (ENDF). Fano is now in conflict with the Ethiopian federal government of Abiy Ahmed Ali following a crackdown in the Amhara region. Fano militia's did play a crucial role defending Ethiopia against TPLF/OLA alongside Amhara special forces under Tefera Mamo and Ethiopian Army. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 11:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 August 2023

I am submitting my edit request to add additional information on the article. Agamino911 (talk) 19:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 23:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 August 2023

Requesting an edit request to add the equipment of the Fano militia and fix certain historical errors on the article. Agamino911 (talk) 16:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 16:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Ethiopian nationalism

Ethiopian nationalism should be already moved to the historic section. --95.24.60.75 (talk) 18:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 October 2023

Add this paragraph explaining previous uses of the term Fano to the History section above the mention of Querro.

"The concept of fano can be traced back to the Zemene Mesafint, early-modern Ethiopia's equivalent of the "warring states period," where the weakening of the authority of the emperor in Gonder lead opportunistic local warriors and regional lords to rebel against the central government in order to gain political and fiscal power. These rebels were referred to by another Amharic word, "shifta," that has since been loaned into other languages. However, it was during the Second Italo-Ethiopian War that the anti-fascist Arbegnoch (who were mainly centered in the ethnically Amhara regions of Gonder, Gojjam, and Shewa), helped popularize the term "fano." Afterwards, the term would gain even more cultural significance as the name of a song by popular Azmari Kassa Tessema, and the 1960s protest song "Fano tesemara" ('O Guerrilla, rise to arms')." 2601:280:C082:DE30:8DD:B7A1:68EE:A810 (talk) 04:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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 Done Seawolf35 (talk - email) 02:12, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 November 2023

Add this paragraph to the end of the "History" section after "the Prosperity Party emerged."

In July 2016, Gobe Melke, a rural Gondere farmer led one of the first examples of a "Fano" militia when North Gonder was turned into a war zone after the Ethiopian government deployed the national army in the region to quell anti-government protests during the 2016–2018 Ethiopian state of emergency. ሰይፍ (talk) 20:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I was just summarizing the contents of the Gobe Melke page, which has sources. How about this:

In July 2016, Gobe Melke, a rural Gondere farmer led one of the first examples of a "Fano" militia when North Gonder was turned into a war zone after the Ethiopian government deployed the national army in the region to quell anti-government protests during the 2016–2018 Ethiopian state of emergency. ሰይፍ (talk) 05:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

@ሰይፍ: None of the two sources seem to mention Melke as a Fano militant. However, I'll reopen the edit request in case anyone more knowledgeable in this area wants to weigh in. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:18, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Almost a month later it's clear nobody does. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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Info box

The fact that Ethiopia is presented as opponent is mistaken. It should be Prosperty Party(the ruling regime) Fano has never said Ethiopia is my opponent. And also the claim that Eritrea is an ally of Fano is not officially supported information. Instant History (talk) 04:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Info box

The fact that Ethiopia is presented as opponent is mistaken. It should be Prosperty Party(the ruling regime) Fano has never said Ethiopia is my opponent. And also the claim that Eritrea is an ally of Fano is not officially supported information. Instant History (talk) 04:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)