Talk:Emily West Morgan

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Plagarism concern

I found this article [1]. There are some tracts from the article that are identical to this article. E.g.

“ He also told his story to an English friend and ethnologist, William Bollaert, who recorded the story in every detail ”

There are many others that are nearly identical. E.g.

“ The Mexican army was caught completely by surprise, and Santa Anna was literally caught "with his pants down. ”

vs

“ The Mexican army was caught completely off guard, and Santa Anna was literally caught "with his pants down. ”

It seems clear that one plagarized from the other. It seems more likely that the WP article is the offender.

Anybody have any insight?

--Mcorazao (talk) 00:18, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, the first question is whether it represents plagiarism (a non-emergency) or copyright infringement, which must be handled immediately. When the article was created, [2], it was substantially more similar to that external source. The article was created in June, 2005, but the oldest archive is February 2007 for the external site. That doesn't mean we didn't copy it from them. Evidence strongly suggests we did, as they would have had to have taken the text from us in the first month of its creation, before it was substantially changed: [3]. There is nothing at that external site to indicate it is not copyrighted; copyright is presumptive. Though the article has been changed, it seems likely to be an unauthorized derivative work. When copying is blatant, we tag with {{db-g12}}. When it isn't, we use {{subst:copyvio}} and list it for closure at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. This permits time for verification of compatible license or for interested contributors to salvage the article with new content in temporary space. I'll tag this one pending clarification. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The time stamps for the files at TAMU are 12/30/2005, but that's no indication of the actual publication date of the article. The article itself is clearly mentioned in a 2003 publication here, and I've found various allusions that Mr. Whitelaw passed away in 2000, but I cannot find a specific online reference to that. Seems clear that we will need a re-write. Kuru ^talk 16:57, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I've written at least a basic page, but this doesn't seem to be the woman's name. It's at Emily D. West. This one has been redirected. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)