Talk:Dothan Valley
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"Northern Samaria"?
[edit]I wonder, is there really a reliable source for the claim that a part of the West Bank is called "Samaria"? To me, it appears to be Israel-specific (and thus POV) terminology. I suggest simply "The northern part of the West Bank". MeteorMaker (talk) 10:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- yes - the article uses terminology which is used here. NoCal100 (talk) 15:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- That map is a bilingual map, showing what the areas are called locally (and it has never been in question that the area is called "Samaria"/"Shomron" by Israelis). The CIA, the organization that issued the map 15 years ago, never uses the term "Samaria" (see for yourself in their online archive, so it's clearly a misrepresentation of the purpose of the map to claim that the CIA uses this Israel-specific terminology. Here's another example of a bilingual map, you would not use that to claim that "Exhibition Center" is a Chinese word. MeteorMaker (talk) 15:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- USER:Oboler has now restored the problematic version with the edit summary "Restore term - the removal is a violation of MeteorMaker's editing restrictions (the change was not "standardization" but POV pushing, already resolved else where))", which appears to be based on insufficient understanding of the relevant facts as 1) there are no editing restrictions that apply to that edit, 2) "West Bank" is indeed the standard term, and 3) no discussion elsewhere has remotely come to the conclusion that any sources support the position that "Samaria" is in current use outside Israel. It would be appropriate if USER:Oboler reverted his edit. MeteorMaker (talk) 10:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Plese stop postingmisleading informaiton - you ar eindeed under a ban which prohibits you from making the dit you made - it is here [1] and states clearly "Ban from making Samaria-related reverts" NoCal100 (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Looking forward to your explanation how the edit in question [2] is a "revert" when no previous version [3] contains anything at all that the edit added. ;) MeteorMaker (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- PS: Do you have a reliable source for the claim that a part of the West Bank is called "Samaria", or did you revert against all the evidence you have been shown ? MeteorMaker (talk) 15:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Plese stop postingmisleading informaiton - you ar eindeed under a ban which prohibits you from making the dit you made - it is here [1] and states clearly "Ban from making Samaria-related reverts" NoCal100 (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- USER:Oboler has now restored the problematic version with the edit summary "Restore term - the removal is a violation of MeteorMaker's editing restrictions (the change was not "standardization" but POV pushing, already resolved else where))", which appears to be based on insufficient understanding of the relevant facts as 1) there are no editing restrictions that apply to that edit, 2) "West Bank" is indeed the standard term, and 3) no discussion elsewhere has remotely come to the conclusion that any sources support the position that "Samaria" is in current use outside Israel. It would be appropriate if USER:Oboler reverted his edit. MeteorMaker (talk) 10:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- That map is a bilingual map, showing what the areas are called locally (and it has never been in question that the area is called "Samaria"/"Shomron" by Israelis). The CIA, the organization that issued the map 15 years ago, never uses the term "Samaria" (see for yourself in their online archive, so it's clearly a misrepresentation of the purpose of the map to claim that the CIA uses this Israel-specific terminology. Here's another example of a bilingual map, you would not use that to claim that "Exhibition Center" is a Chinese word. MeteorMaker (talk) 15:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- This area called Samaria by Josephus. Even before Josephus in the Neo-Assyrian Empire this area named "province of Samerina". This is ancient name. The "west bank" is a political name since 1948. Geographically, the Dothan Valley is not the west bank of the Jordan. החבלן (talk) 16:27, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- This is not an encyclopedia written in the first century. We have a naming convention in place and this is settled at this point. nableezy - 16:34, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
