Talk:Dim sum

White rice cake?

A few times that I've gone for Dim Sum, I've been able to snag a dessert item, that is about 3/4" thick, sliced in triangular chunks about 2"x3". These are white, a bit rubbery, taste like rice and honey, are flat on the top, but have a not-quite-honeycomb lattice on the bottom. (And are delicious!!) I've asked what the name is, and I've forgotten the chinese name, but I was told the english translation is "Rice Cake" or "White Rice Cake". I came to this article to try to learn more about it (re-learn what its name is, so I can ask for it properly, or try to look for recipes....), but it's not here. :( Does anyone know what this dish is, and what it's (properly) called? And can it please get added to this article? It doesn't taste like coconut, so it's not coconut jelly. Thanks! 173.206.137.186 (talk) 23:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Jin deui or Jian dui?

The wonderful Sesame Ball is shown as Jin Deui here, but the link is to the article on Jian Dui! Not so much as a disambig! Is one of those the proper (transliterated) name... or maybe both? I think there are two fillings: red bean paste and lotus paste. Do the pastries have different names depending on the filling? Tzf (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Lo Mai Ban? (Sticky Jin Deui)

Another Xin Nian dish, with the center of jin deui (red bean paste usually) but the chewy dough is uncooked, sweet, and wrapped in a leaf like Lo Mai Gai. What is the correct name for this? Tzf (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

please add the following topics

https://redhousespice.com/mango-pancake/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.44.56 (talk) 04:14, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Mango pancakes doesn't appear to be an existing article. It probably should be created before it is linked to on this page. Sakura Cartelet^Talk 04:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

• durian crisp nosh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.44.56 (talk) 04:32, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

https://www.google.com.au/search?source=hp&ei=eCS3WoCyNIqI8wWehrCQBQ&q=%E6%A6%B4%E8%8E%B2%E9%85%A5&oq=%E6%A6%B4%E8%8E%B2%E9%85%A5&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3848.3848.0.5000.1.1.0.0.0.0.251.251.2-1.1.0....0...1.2.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.8r54wUSFqrs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.44.56 (talk) 04:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

https://www.google.com.au/search?source=hp&ei=1Ce3Wpoqi6nxBeO_l8AG&q=durian+crisp+nosh&oq=durian+crisp+nosh&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.7998.7998.0.10252.1.1.0.0.0.0.18.18.1.1.0....0...1.2.64.psy-ab..0.1.17....0.lY1cVtUdTL0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.44.56 (talk) 04:40, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

• Century egg pork congee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.44.56 (talk) 05:15, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

http://zh.wiki.x.io/wiki/皮蛋瘦肉粥 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.44.56 (talk) 05:17, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

https://kwgls.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/century-egg-pork-congee-皮蛋瘦肉粥）/

• http://zh.wiki.x.io/wiki/廣式點心 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.181.232.70 (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

http://www.baike.com/wiki/皮蛋酥

• https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com.au&sl=zh-CN&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.baike.com/wiki/%25E7%259A%25AE%25E8%259B%258B%25E9%2585%25A5&xid=17259,15700021,15700043,15700124,15700149,15700168,15700173,15700186,15700201&usg=ALkJrhhGbvrtxPOndn9efQ2Xv_acy99Hvw

https://www.google.com.au/search?ei=zLXFWuK3LYeS0gLMjLLICQ&q=%E7%BD%97%E6%B1%89%E6%96%8B%E8%85%90%E7%9A%AE%E5%8D%B7&oq=%E7%BD%97%E6%B1%89%E6%96%8B%E8%85%90%E7%9A%AE%E5%8D%B7&gs_l=psy-ab.3...160441.160852.0.162437.2.2.0.0.0.0.577.577.5-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.0.0....0.1KcjOO5_UVw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.180.131.20 (talk) 05:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

https://www.google.com.au/search?ei=dLjFWpD2LIH90wLbkJPYBg&q=%E7%85%8E%E9%85%BF%E8%8C%84%E5%AD%90+dim+sum&oq=%E7%85%8E%E9%85%BF%E8%8C%84%E5%AD%90+dim+sum&gs_l=psy-ab.3...20318.31702.0.32874.8.8.0.0.0.0.550.2348.2-2j1j2j1.6.0....0...1c.1j4.64.psy-ab..2.2.844...33i160k1.0.uVo3WX3IIQ8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.180.131.20 (talk) 05:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Does the article include images that enhance understanding the topic?

While the article does use some of the images to identity the food as well as some of the tea commonly used, much of the food in the article mentioned does not have an image to reference to. Jennil12988 (talk) 03:10, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Copy Editing

Submitted a request to the Guild of Copy Editors for Copy Editing in preparation for a Good Article Nomination. Hope people can help out on the feedback and move this towards a good article. Renewableandalternativeenergy (talk) 16:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Copy editing was completed on August 4, 2020. --Renewableandalternativeenergy (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Revisions made based on previous feedback. Submitted a request to the Guild of Copy Editors for Copy Editing in preparation for a Good Article Nomination. Renewableandalternativeenergy (talk) 11:34, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

I will be copy editing this article. Edipio (talk) 01:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Renewableandalternativeenergy (talk) 02:32, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dim sum/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 15:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Prose

General

Hi! Thanks for nominating this article. Sadly, I've had a read through, and I don't think I can support this article for promotion. Here's some issues that I picked up that are going to take a bit longer to fix than the normal GAN process. If you get the article passed this, please renominate:

• There's a lot of citations in the lede. A lede is supposed to be a summary of the text within the article, so the information given should be found in the main prose. So, the info in the lede isn't generally cited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• Cantonese has the wrong link. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• There's quite a few quotations, such as "dim Sum" in the lede, but these aren't actually quotes. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• Paragraph structure is a bit weird, some have small one sentence paragraphs, followed by larger paras. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• We have a massive quote from Yan-kit So, but we never describe who he is, or why this is important. The quote borders on copyvio in length Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• If we concentrate only on the changes and development in the variety of 'wrappers', the main types of dim sum wrappers during the 1920s included such things as raised (for filled buns), wheat starch, shao mai (i.e., egg dough), crystal bun, crispy batter, sticky rice, and boiled dumpling wrappers. By the 1930s, the varieties of wrappers commonly used by chefs included... puff pastry, Cantonese short pastry, [and so on, for a total of 23 types] that were prepared by pan-frying, deep-frying, steaming, baking, and roasting. - who said this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• The main issue here is the big reliance on images. Images should be used to enhance the prose, rather than replace. The dishes section really needs to be prosified Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• I'm not a fan at all of bullet points, you usually need something to be suitable for bullets. The two sections here that use them should be prosified Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• There is still some unreferenced materials. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• Image captions need some work, they mostly just state what the image is of.
• you also need some alt text. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

On the plus side, the references look good, aside from "The Passionate Foodie", which is a blog. If you can work on the above, it'll be suitable for another nomination.

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Not Dim Sum

The current version of the article has some items that are not really dim sum. How can one call congee “dim sum”? NOT every dish that one can order in a Chinese restaurant when go for “yum cha” can be called dim sum. This needs to be fixed. --Dustfreeworld (talk) 18:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I have removed some of the most obvious. [1] Those *are* Chinese food, but *not* dim sum. They can be added to other articles. --Dustfreeworld (talk) 21:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

While I don't have extreme objections to your edit, it does bring up a long term issue.

I have seen most (if not all) of those deleted dishes at many dim sum restaurants. So a long term question is how does one define "canonical dim sum" dishes, and according to what standard? Since dim sum is always evolving, and in most cases has had the most innovation and popularity by the Chinese diaspora in places actually outside of China, it may be more useful to label certain dishes as "core" and others as "also found in dim sum settings" rather than outright deleting them. - Fuzheado | Talk 14:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)