Talk:Cleo Odzer

Calling All Friends, Hippies, and Fellow Travelers Who Knew Cleo Odzer

Cleo Odzer left behind a remarkable legacy—a life lived boldly, chronicling the countercultures, adventures, and unconventional worlds that shaped her and countless others. Now, as time moves on, we have an opportunity to honor her memory and preserve the rich tapestry of her life for generations to come.

If you knew Cleo, partied with her in Goa, shared stories, or have treasured photos, audio recordings, RealAudio files, or any other memories of her, we invite you to help keep her legacy alive. By gathering and digitizing these pieces of history, we can create a comprehensive archive of Cleo’s life—a living tribute to her spirit and the worlds she explored.

Let’s make sure Cleo’s story doesn’t fade into the sands of time. Consider uploading these materials to archive.org, where they can be preserved and shared with the world. Whether it’s candid snapshots from the beaches of Goa, rare recordings of her voice, or written reflections, every contribution matters.

This isn’t just about Cleo—it’s about the culture, the community, and the shared history of a generation that dared to live differently. Together, let’s ensure that her story and the stories of those who walked alongside her continue to inspire, inform, and connect.

Before we all reach moksha, let’s gather the pieces of this beautiful, chaotic puzzle and give them a permanent home.

Thank you for helping preserve Cleo’s legacy.

Peace, love, and light to all. 🌼 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.185.77.31 (talk) 03:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AIDS claim

In what way does the supplied reference document that Odzer's doctor said that she had AIDS? Nicmart (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from "(1950--2001)" I don't see any mention of her death, let alone what she died from, in the material about Odzer on pages 83 and 84 of the book cited. Without valid citation or attribution, I think the assertion that she died from AIDS should be removed.
--Embram (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I found the correct citation (it was on page 86, not on page 83 as previously cited) and supplied it. A friend of hers has said that Odzer had told her she had tested HIV-positive, but as this is not currently verifiable by Wikipedia standards I didn't add it.
--Embram (talk) 20:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is a phone call a proper reference?

I'm curious to know if Wikipedia permits a phone call by a contributor as a valid reference, such as appears with this article. I've sometimes wanted to include first-hand correspondence with article subjects, but assumed it was not permitted. Nicmart (talk) 05:23, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References aside ..

It appears that there is a lack of proper reference for the matter related to the circumstances during her final days. Does it really matter "how" she died?. I'd say , let's present that infomation as a possibility ( the HIV thing) keeping in mind her views about life and death and the very reason we are building this article on her . Certain topics require a balance of rationality , correctness of infomation and the "emotion" attributed to the "topic". Always remember wikipedia is primarily an "emotion" :) Leningrad (talk) 08:31, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Classification as a "Jewish writer"

Someone recently added Odzer to the "Jewish American writers" and "Jewish women writers" classifications (while arbitrarily removing her from the "American writers" category, as though a Jewish writer cannot be an American writer. Note: I restored her to the "American writers" category.) But on what basis can she be termed a "Jewish writer"? She was adopted, and though her adoptive parents were ethnic Jews there's no record of Cleo's (Sheila's) having converted to Judaism or having had a Jewish upbringing, there's no record of her having received any kind of Jewish education, and her writing does not concern any particularly Jewish topic or subject matter. - Embram (talk) 20:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

She was adopted? Source? One of the references for this entry is apparently a birth notice, which seems unlikely for an adopted child. Nicmart (talk) 00:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Poorly sourced

Much of this is unsourced. Is there any proof, for instance, that Odzer obtained a doctorate in anthropology? Nicmart (talk) 01:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Her dissertation is linked in the references. AxelBoldt (talk) 20:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]