Talk:Polish folk beliefs
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[edit]Are these Polish mythology articles being created by a bot? Each one, each change to each one, is created by a different address, and they're being created at a high rate of speed. RickK 06:40, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Yes this is odd. Merovingian
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[edit]This article has no footnotes, and makes several dubious claims. I doubt it is a fair representation of Polish folk beliefs and folklore.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Me too. It sounds like some neo-pagan wrote it. Are those references trustworthy? Bojan Grgurov (talk) 23:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
If it doesn't exist, then why are replicas being sold on curio web sites? I'm amazed you people don't at least google before becoming the last word on what exists and what doesn't. For example: http://www.mesmerize.co.uk/amulets.html I found this by simply googling the words magick, amulet, Poland. Apparently they are replicas from a museum in Warsaw. And no, I'm not a "neopagan." FYI, if you think magic or occultism didn't exist in Poland, you really need to read up on the Enochian language. --OP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.232.236.100 (talk) 02:23, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I did find that shop, but I don't care what they sell. They might have been inspired to make it up by what they read on Wikipedia, because this piece of text is here since 2003 (created by a non-registered user). As far as I know, there is no single reliable trace of existence of the belt (and I can say the same about ladanki). I can see you added a reference to a book which claims that the belt is on display in some museum in Warsaw, while one paragraph above we can read that it disappeared at the end of WWII. It's not verifiable unless we know which museum they mean. I won't comment on Enochian and what I think. Trosmisiek (talk) 17:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm a librarian. I've spent a significant amount of time on the internet, and I could find nothing substantial to support the existence of Magic Belts except from Neo Pagan sites, and sites that simply copied the information from Wikipedia. The only significant mention of a magic belt and/or girdle in European folklore that I could locate is from Sir Gawain tales, where Sir Gawain has a magic girdle that protects him from harm. This, however, is Celtic folklore, not Polish or Slavic. Unless someone finds an actual historical source, I would advise taking this claim with a grain of salt. Lauren the Librarian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.232.119 (talk) 03:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
That the "replicas" are being sold, doesn't mean that such object ever existed. Or if ever existed it wasn't a forgery. It seems that this is a recent claim by websites which sell charms etc. But if there this belt was indeed in a museum in Warsaw, which I doubt, as no Polish sources mention it.Googled several terms in Polish, and no internet sites in polish language mention it, none at all. What you get is Templars, and "belts" of fields, which is the same word as stripes of land. And Templars existed in Poland.--Bialosz (talk) 19:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Folk beliefs are definitely not the same as folklor, so "Polish folk beliefs" here and "Folklor polski" on pl.wp should NOT be equated via Wikidata. --85.253.66.252 (talk) 21:13, 16 September 2016 (UTC)