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Hyphen vs. Slash

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Jonathanhusky IMO, it should use the one of the references for the Article, either the reference that gives the Image in the article, which says Mansfield / Storrs or the Massgov report which says https://www.mass.gov/doc/final-report-1/download which has a slash with no spaces: Mansfield/Storrs. Do we have any references that Storrs should have gone first? (And I'd like to say that discussion with you has been quite friendly.)Naraht (talk) 19:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that sources seem to use the Mansfield/Storrs form. For station names we typically use no space around the slashes (cf Middleborough/Lakeville station, Warm Springs/South Fremont station). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps this is an example of my New York exposure. The MTA and its predecessors favored hyphens, like the aforementioned Fairfield Black Rock and Harlem-125th Street stations on the New Haven Line, but also Yankees-East 153rd Street, Croton-Harmon, and Harlem Valley-Wingdale stations on the other Metro-North lines, and a majority of the New York City subway stations. I also notice some, but not many, using slashes and I see the MBTA Commuter Rail example linked here.
One of the goals of this proposed rail line is to connect the schools of the "Knowledge Corridor", including UConn. Contemporaneous to the primary town name discussion, that purpose would theoretically place "Storrs" before "Mansfield". It's also important to note that the proposed station site (without any new trackage on or near the main UConn campus) exists outside of the Storrs census-designated place boundary, but within the Storrs-Mansfield postal boundary.
In the Massachusetts DOT study you've linked, Table 3.2 "Daily 2020 Forecasts of Central Corridor Rail Ridership by Station" (Page 17) lists "Storrs" (singular) and "Mohegan Sun", differing from the other listings within that study. The project's original webpage just lists "Mansfield" on the newest archive of its (potential) stations page, and "Storrs" on their about page.
Thank you, as for participating in fine discussions like these, I don't often edit Wikipedia but being respectful and understanding the evidence and policies are important! It's good to see other users who believe in the same. Jonathanhusky (talk) 21:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, I don't think we will get a consistent answer. At this point, I'm thinking Mansfield/Storrs as an option both because it is one of the terms used and both Mansfield or Storrs have been used by all sources (I don't know what the other possibilities are, is the stop in one of the other villages? Since it is a future stop and we'd need a lot more progress before I could even see an article for a station I don't think we need to figure it out as an article name. I'm in the Washington DC area and one thing that became quite clear between the 1968 approved plans for the Washingon Metro and today is that station names change between plans and opening. I'm quite sure that should it open, that school related colors/mascots would be attached to each of the university related stations. (Including the Coast Guard Academy at the south end?)Naraht (talk) 13:43, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For all intents and purposes, the only active villages are Storrs-Mansfield (where this proposed station would be) and Mansfield Center. Other names and areas have historical significance - for example, the Eagleville and Merrow neighborhoods each had train stations depending on the time period and railroad.
Actually, this discussion prompts a different question - how significant is this proposed railroad on its own? There exist other proposed or imagined improvements to rail travel in Connecticut, some from different agencies or groups advocating for similar services. Would it be best to consolidate these into sections in an article like East-West Passenger Rail? Of course, if any of the proposals is adapted into a new railroad, it could "graduate" into an article discussing that current use. Jonathanhusky (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this is proposed rail in three states *and* what is in the article appears to raise it to notability. I also (mostly due to my work on Fraternities and Sororities that have long since gone inactive) work under the rule of "once notable, always notable". And with the proposal crossing three states, I don't know if it makes sense to put it into a single state's article. Otoh, we've spent this long on discussion of an article of a proposal that hasn't been discussed for a decade, so what's your proposal?Naraht (talk) 18:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The most likely merge target would be New England Central Railroad. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:45, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I'm reading things correctly, basically, this article is about a proposal to run passenger service on the southern half of same rails as the NECR freight with the possible need to (re) build passenger stations, correct?Naraht (talk) 19:18, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is correct. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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