Talk:Botanical garden

Origins

Just ran across this interesting passage in America's First Cuisines (1994, 2005) by Sophie D. Coe:

It is sometimes said that the idea of the botanical garden came to Europe in the letters of Cortés to Charles V, in one of which he described the botanical gardens of the Aztec emperor Motecuhzoma (Cortés 1986: 196). These letters were published in Latin in 1522 and in Italian in Venice in 1524. Navagero left Venice in October 1524 and when he arrived in Spain wrote to his friend Giovanni Battista Ramusio, promising to send him all the written material he could find on the New World if Ramusio would see to tending his two gardens, one on the mainland at La Selva and the other on the island of Murano. This last, supposedly the first private botanical garden in Europe, had been planted in 1522. The earliest public botanical gardens in Europe were in Pisa and Padua, founded respectively in 1544 and 1545. If Ermolao Barbaro really founded, or even thought of founding, a private botanical garden in Padua in 1484 this of course predates any possible New World influence. The last decade of the fifteenth century saw the republication in Venice of many of the botanical works of antiquity—interest in the world of plants was part of the Renaissance ferment. The best conclusion about the origin of the botanical garden is to consider it a joint effort, with the Old World and the New cooperating to add this weapon to the armament of science.

It looks like this article sidesteps the controversy, but it would be of interest to include it or whatever the current thought on the matter is, as this text is somewhat dated. Viriditas (talk) 03:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

• There are several uncited sections, paragraphs, and sentences.
• Several sections are quite short, and probably need to be expanded.
• The "History" section seems to end in 1987. This should include more recent events.

If anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Botanical garden

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Result: Kept. Hog Farm _Talk 23:10, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

There are several uncited sections, paragraphs, and sentences. Several sections are quite short, and probably need to be expanded. The "History" section seems to end in 1987. This should include more recent events. Z1720 (talk) 16:17, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll have a go at this. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:01, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Keep, I've tidied this up, removed editorial, weeded the images, trimmed the lists, and added a ridiculous number of citations. It's not perfect but it'll pass muster. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:36, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: The "History" section still seems to stop at 1987. Any major topics that should be included in the article about the topic post-1990s? Z1720 (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Well it's a bit soon to document the history of the 21st century, but I've added a section on that century, looking at strategy and major trends. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: Thanks for doing this. After reading the "Future" section, I think some of that information could possibly be updated or moved up to "History". For example, the Oman botanical garden is cited to a 2011 source, so has it already been built? Once this is complete I think this article will probably be a "keep" for me. Z1720 (talk) 14:06, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

In 2025 the Oman website, now cited, is still in the future tense, so it seems the garden has not been constructed. I've redistributed the 'future' materials. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

@Z1720, thoughts? (please  mention me on reply) charlotte ^👸♥ 02:33, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Keep Concerns are addressed and resolved. Z1720 (talk) 01:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.