Talk:Bob Davidson (umpire)
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Vandalism
[edit]I've deleted all references to the May 2010 game between the Rays and the Red Sox (wherein Crawford and Maddon were ejected) because all of them were written POV (actually, they were vandalism). If you have a problem with the calls, write a neutral paragraph and cite sources. Don't write things about how the umpire has his "head up his ass" and is "legally blind." 76.201.158.189 (talk) 00:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
NPOV Dispute
[edit]It is within fair context to define Bob Davidson by the mistaken calls he has made. Any other umpire under the same circumstances would attract just as much attention. Not only are his calls questionable, but his stubborness after making them even when definitive evidence points otherwise (i.e. yellow paint on the baseball) merits him the extra attention.
This article seems to be heavily biased against Bob Davidson. Almost the entire article is a description of mistakes (some of them not very notable, such as the one in May 2006). While the World Baseball Cup incidents were a notable part of his career, they should not constitute such a large part of the article. The list of Other Controversial Calls is gratuitous and is comparable to listing every key error a baseball player has made. No other umpire of his stature has an article on Wikipedia, and the content of this article seems to be mostly a rant against Bob Davidson.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sam Pierce (talk • contribs) 02:49, 1 June 2006.
- He rose to international interest as a result of his bad calls. As a result, the article mostly consists of his bad calls. I don't know a bloody thing about him other than that he resigned during the umpire labour dispute. If, however, you would like to improve the article in that direction, it would add a great deal of balance. Lord Bob 19:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- I eliminated discussion of the call in May 2006, which was not even mentioned in several articles about the game. The only mention I did find had a quote from a Blue Jay saying that either team could have argued the call either way due to its closenss. I also corrected and clarified some of the information about his employment status. Sam Pierce 05:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
All umpires make bad calls from time to time. A really famous bad call would be worth mentioning; a few that some fans happen to notice, not really. - Che Nuevara: Join the Revolution 17:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think you get it about this umpire. This is my problem with non-baseball fans editing these type of posts. While some of this is clear vandalism, this particular umpire is noted for notoriously poor calls and judgements. While other umpires make poor calls from time to time, this has become part of his professional persona, which is fair context. I suggest you buy a subscription to the MLB package and watch his games, as I have done. I may have no life, but I do understand the context. While I am not into writing POV on the article, some of this is fair context. --Akc2543 (talk) 04:00, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- There are numerous other comparable umpires with articles; he's worked in a World Series and three NLCS, so the article is certainly justifiable. The POV issues are another matter. I think the other two controversial calls mentioned are worth noting due to the historic implications of the plays involved. MisfitToys 22:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I have gone ahead and hit edit and deleted the reference in the Davidson bio under other controversial calls relating to the 1992 World Series "triple play". Mike Reilly was the 2nd base umpire who blew the call at second base in what would have completed the triple play. Reilly was #31 on the AL crew, Davidson was #31 on the NL crew at the time. It was Reilly. - Terry, Peterborough, ON, Canada. 24.235.208.80 01:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Milwaukee Brewers vs. Tampa Bay Rays on 6/20/11, Davidson again made a controversial call when Nyjer Morgan was hit by a 91mph fastball on the right shoulder. Davidson called this a ball, and required Morgan to continue batting. The question was not whether or not the ball hit him, but whether or not Morgan attempted to get out of the way. Widespread commentary can be found of how terrible a call this was. Ron Roenicke is seen saying say "Yeah, 'cause everybody came out to see you?" to Davidson right before he was ejected. This is further proof that Davidson has a habit of making controversial and incorrect calls in order to increase his visibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.250.87.252 (talk) 23:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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an umpire suspended
[edit]It quickly caught my attention that this umpire was suspended 1 game (Phillies manager Charlie Manuel also got a 1-game suspension). You rarely see an umpire being suspended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 21:10, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
It shows that half the people on the talk page were probably Davidson's friends and family. The neutrality of the article should NOT be in dispute; find articles on him and all the things listed are verifiable. I do not know what kind of man he is, nor do I know him, all I do know is this article does support Wikipedia's policies. Google him. Find one good article. I see little POV in the article. --Akc2543 (talk) 13:28, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Assume good faith on the part of other editors. There are many contentious statements on this page without sources. (I am trying to rectify that.) --Jprg1966 (talk) 17:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Unassisted Triple Play
[edit]Can we add something about umpiring the Phillies unassisted triple Play in 1992?74.77.50.142 (talk) 01:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- You are welcome to try, however be prepared for the fact that anything you put up could be taken down if it's deemed not appropriate. AutomaticStrikeout 02:18, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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