Talk:Bishtazhin

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On 10 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Bistražin to Bishtazhin. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 10 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:51, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bistražin → Bishtazhin – Bishtazhin is the proper, official name for the village. It is an Albanian-speaking village inhabited by Albanians, within an Albanian-majority municipality where there is not a single Serb, and in a country where Albanians make up 93% of the population and Serbians do not even make up 2%. There is no reason why the Serbian form of the toponym should be used in this article. Furthermore, in recent years, the Albanian form has overtaken the Serbian form:

Since the beginning of the 21st century, 'Bishtazhin' and 'Bishtrazhin' return 234 [1] and 4 [2] results respectively
Since the beginning of the 21st century, 'Bistražin' returns 192 results [3] Botushali (talk) 04:34, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In summary, Bishtazhin is the common, official name for the village, and so the article must be moved to reflect this. Botushali (talk) 04:34, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 08:17, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.Alltan (talk) 19:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Given previous consensus that the majority ethnic group dictates the naming convention of the place name in Kosovo. ElderZamzam (talk) 03:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support S.G ReDark (talk) 03:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Orthodox Church?

@ElderZamzam, hi, I've come across certain mentions of an Orthodox church supposedly existing in the village, but I have not heard or read about an Orthodox church being rebuilt here. There is no Orthodox church in the village as of now, perhaps it was destroyed during the Kosovo War period? If that's not the case, are you sure the source is discussing Bishtazhin? Botushali (talk) 02:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Botushali. I had a look and I couldn't find another settlement under the name "Bishtazhin" in Kosovo that could be confused with it. According to census data, there was a minority population of Montenegrin's which had arrived as part of the Yugoslav colonization program.[4] The referenced census shows over 3,000 people living in the village in the 1950s, meaning the village would have covered a large area which has now broken up into other smaller villages. I can not find further RS evidence for the church and I assume it was destroyed and allowed to crumble during the Kosovo War. If you have not come across anything further then I will revert my addition until its exact location can be verified. Thanks. ElderZamzam (talk) 03:07, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ElderZamzam Thus far I can only find sources that passingly mention the first destruction of the church prior to the supposed rebuild in 1988. I don’t really doubt that the church existed initially, I just feel that it’s important to state that there’s no longer an Orthodox Church in the village if the source you used is correct, but I cannot find a source which describes a second destruction post-1988 to explicitly state that there is no longer a church in the village. Another problem is that I cannot include anecdotal information in the article so I cannot specifically write that the church no longer exists without a source. If it mentions Bishtazhin then I have no doubts it means this particular village, to the best of my knowledge it is the only toponym of its form in Kosovo. Perhaps you could send a photo or something along those lines of the source so I can try and find something to corroborate it with? Botushali (talk) 06:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]