Talk:Battle of Abu Klea

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Commanders

Urabi was captured on Battle of Tel el-Kebir (1882) and exiled to the British colony of Ceylon, where he spent the rest of his life. He cannot be the Commander here.de:Benutzer:DAJ

Urabi Revolt

Isn't this battle part of the Mahdist jihad? How does that tie in with the Urabe Revolt? Neither article mentions the other--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 01:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The four feathers" is no good reference

The movie "The four feathers", that is the remake of 2002, does not show this battle accurately. In fact, in this movie, the English are defeated by the Mahdist forces, but history records otherwise. In the movie "Khartoum" from 1966, with Charlton Heston playing a very convincing General Gordon, the battle is shown just like it happened: the Camel Corps defeated the Mahdist forces and continued to move on Khartoum, but unfortunately they arrived two days late to save the city.87.67.31.246 (talk) 10:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pint of Broken Square

Does that line come from this battle? 128.12.252.4 (talk) 01:39, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See page Broken square. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Photo: British Camel Corps, two Sikh soldiers mounted in fighting order

This photo does not seem relevant to the article. The Camel Corps of the Nile Expedition, and which fought at Abu Klea, was a brigade put together especially for this expedition and consisting of various units dispatched from Britain and given camels for transport. Most of these were infantry units, though some were cavalry. They were specifically instructed to fight on foot (a matter of some relevance to why the square was broken into at Abu Klea), so would not have been mounted when fighting. The photographer credited with this photo apparently arrived too late to go with the expedition up the Nile. Hyrling (talk) 14:06, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

“ Pyrrhic” victory

“A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat.” That is not the case for this battle. It was a clear victory more than a week before the fall of Khartoum. The failure to relieve Gordon is a different issue. The desert column wasn’t the main force. Therefore, I have deleted the qualification of the victory. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 03:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is pretty clealry an undisputed victory

The British formed a square. Inflicted huge casualties on attacking troops. Attacking troops fled, and left the British in command of the field. This is all the key factors for victory. Deathlibrarian (talk) 15:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate content

Content in the second to last paragraph of the "Battle" section includes: "...the advance rescue force leader Major General Sir Herbert Stewart was mortally wounded by Remington rifle fire by the Mahdists that night. He knew it was a mortal wound, and he transferred command to an inexperienced leader, Brigadier General Sir Charles Wilson (the column's intelligence officer)".

The "Aftermath" section includes: "Sir Herbert Steward was mortally wounded during the action and the command fell to Sir Charles Wilson". -- Otr500 (talk) 04:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]