Talk:Baidu/Archives/2014

Missing the point

The Chinese government tried to get Google to censor its search results but that basically failed. The government could not just block Google and so Baidu is a censored version of Google with the intentions of later Blocking Google. In order to do so, they must replicate Google features. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billegge (talk • contribs) 14:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Evaluation

What's about the value of the company? In my mind, i think the value at the NASDAQ is at 4 Billion Dollars. An the conversion per year is at 8 million dollars and only 1 million winning cash.

Excuse my bad english, but i'm Swiss German ;)

Can anyone write about that and about the phenomen that's in the direction of the New Economy and dot.com-Boom?

Kind regards and thanks,

anderegg

Meaning of "Baidu"

Could someone whose Chinese is better than mine add an explanation of what "Baidu" means?

Literally, it's 100 degrees or occasions. As far as I can find, it is a quote from a poem where the author is searching for someone in a crowd. But perhaps it is also a reference to 10¹⁰⁰, which is a Googol... Apparently that's the same pun that partly gave Google its name. --JRawle 17:59, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

So should it mean 100x or 100 degrees? I thought it meant 100 degrees, but the pun with googol is quite interesting

Someone tried to add some advertising spam to the article today, but the first part of it was interesting:

Many people have asked about the meaning of Baidu's name. "Baidu" was inspired by a poem written more than 800 years ago during the Song Dynasty. The poem compares the search for a retreating beauty amid chaotic glam Baidu's with the search for one's dream while confronted by life's many obstacles. "…hundreds and thousands of times, for her I searched in chaos, suddenly, I turned by chance, to where the lights Baidure waning, and there she stood." Baidu, whose literal meaning is hundreds of times, represents persistent search for the ideal.

Something like that could be added to the article.

--JRawle 15:07, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes it is from a line in a poem " 众里寻他千百度，蓦然回首，那人却在灯火阑珊处 ". However your English translation is a bit off. First it's not "her", but "him". Also it's not really "chaos", but "crowds". 123.112.224.228 (talk) 03:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Notice that in ancient Chinese language there wasn't the feminine pronoun "她".the pronoun "他" stand for both "he" and "she". The accurate sex of substituted person must be gussed. The feminine pronoun "她" was invented in 1917 during the New Culture Movement 新文化运动 by the poet Liu Bannong 劉半農.caowm 5:00 UTC 3rd Aug.2008

It wasn't my translation, I should point out (wish I could do it even that well!) It was posted on the article by an anonymous user back in 2005. JRawle (Talk) 19:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello yall, I am a Chinese and I would like to confirm that the name Baidu in Chinese does indeed translate to "one hundred degree". The other explainations provided are interesting. I have personaly never heared anything like that but it definitely might still be true.

I would like to suggest that we include the other possible meanings but focus on the litral one. Can someone who is native in English please provide a draft? Thanks in advance.

Yongke 19:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't it also mean the percentage of alcohol in a beverage? This is the first thing I thought of when I saw the name 百度. For example zh:白酒 says "白酒中酒精度數較高的有高達60度至70度，但是60度以上的高度酒市場上少見流通。" So 100度 would mean pure alcohol. --JWB (talk) 10:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

百度 can be used for the percentage of alcohol in a beverage, but obviously, using as a company name, it doesn't mean "One hundred degree" or "One hundred percentage", but "One hundred times". And "Baidu/百度" does come from the Poem. --Skyfree2012 (talk) 03:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Minor edit conflict regarding names

user:Aish Warya wants director names stated as such:

Li Bungsie, founder, chairman, CEO
Shawn Wang, CFO
Zhu Hongbo, COO

While user:Jiang would prefer them to be presented as the following, as listed in [1]:

Robin Li, Chairman, CEO
Shawn Wang, CFO
David Zhu, COO

Any thoughts on the matter?

I think the English first names might be more appropriate in the English Wikipedia, especially if they are more widely used in the English-speaking press - they also appear to be more correct since I think Robin Li's Chinese first name is Yanhong, not Bungsie. -- Marcika (talk) 13:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Chinese government censorship

Should some mention be made of the nature of Baidu's relationship with the Chinese government censors? Recent announcements of restrictions of news media and "cooperation" by Yahoo and Google to provide info and block sites found "objectionable" by the Chinese government are mentioned in Wikipedia ([2]), Wikinews [3] [4]) and Western news sites ([5]). Quoting the 17 September 2006 New York Times article (#3 under article references): "While Baidu continues to gain market share in China — and does so with a Web site that the Chinese government heavily censors and that gives priority to advertising rather than relevant search results...In exchange for letting censors oversee its Web site, Baidu has sealed its dominance with support from the Chinese government, which regularly blocks Google here and imposes strict rules and censorship on other foreign Internet companies." In fact, Wikipedia itself is blocked by China since 1995. [6] Are we telling the full story here? Ryanjo 14:51, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

How, why, and when some keywords are censored (e.g. Nanking Massacre) is never revealed to the public. But I recall Google China has a server in the firewall to initiate connections from inside then remove inaccessible links in the search results. --Skyfiler 15:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that something like this statement be placed under the "Services" section:

Baidu, along with Google China, Yahoo! China, Microsoft, Cisco, AOL, Skype, and others, has cooperated with the Chinese government in implementing a system of Internet censorship in mainland China.

A statement such as proposed by Skyfiler could be additional content if a reference on the technology is found.

I also placed a statement that Baidu uses the same "pay-per-click" model for ad revenues as Google. Ryanjo 21:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Source: New York Times

Brin's team had one more challenge to confront: how to determine which sites to block? The Chinese government wouldn't give them a list. So Google's engineers hit on a high-tech solution. They set up a computer inside China and programmed it to try to access Web sites outside the country, one after another. If a site was blocked by the firewall, it meant the government regarded it as illicit — so it became part of Google's blacklist. [7]

Hope this helps.--Skyfiler 02:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the role of censorship in Baidu should be one of the key points that needs to be addressed in this wikipedia article. Currently we only have one single sentence, that does not reflect the extent and associated problems of censorship on 'wikipedia-style' clone.

(attention: please complete reading first before actually attempting any of the following) For instance if you type: "法輪功" Falun Gong or "六四事件" ('May the 4th movement', known as the Tiananmen Square protests/massacre in the English speaking world.) or any derivative of the above naming, as well as many other issues; users are temporarily banned from Baidu.com for either 5 or 10 minutes. Additionally on entering any of these key words Baidu logs your ip and following that you are then hit loads of times to trace your ip in order to determine your location. (I have experienced this however I use a proxy IP address for safety - so do not enter any of these words into the Baidu search engine unless you want to be attacked.) - We can only speculate as to how far they can (opposed to 'will') go if you search for any of those terms from within in Mainland China - therefore I believe we should elaborate more on this issue than just a single sentence. (intentionally not signed in)

Wow. The article currently makes no mention of censorship. Let's pretend this is an accidental oversight; how shall we fix it? -Kris Schnee (talk) 03:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... This needs to be remedied, especially in light of Google's decision to pull out of China for these exact reasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.138.215 (talk) 09:23, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Search capabilities

Can Baidu "search text and images" or can it search text and search for images? --Sam Francis

Baidu DOES NOT have the same Pay per click system as Google. It IS a pay for performance listing, meaning you pay a yearly fee to be ranked either 1-3 or 4-10 etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.237.38 (talk) 21:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Baidu now does have a pay per click system similar to Google AdWords. --TaitLawton (talk) 20:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

POV

The main focus of the company was web search, not mp3 search, as the article claimed. Also, this article express only a scattered and fragmentary view from the West. 222.130.194.253 22:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

This article's English

Why is this article's grammar so horrible? This is the English-language Wikipedia page, regardless of the subject matter. I would correct it myself, but Wikipedia's increasingly-onerous policies towards unregistered users discourages me from contributing anything besides commentary on talk pages. 71.131.194.12 01:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• If you make good edits, you will gain respect. If you correct the English we will appreciate the English. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

What does this have to do with Baidu?

Just one year after its launch, almost two thirds (63%) of the European online population are aware of the .eu Internet top level domain name and 45 % know that they, as residents of EU, can get their own .eu domain name. These are some of the findings of a survey conducted by the independent company, InSites, on behalf of EURid.

This is a discussion about .eu domain names, not Baidu. Why is it in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.235.1.34 (talk) 00:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

There is also a Baidu.eu website, and the Wikipedians decided to merge it into this article under the section heading "Baidu Europe". --72.75.64.192 06:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Baidu and Baidu Europe are two unrelated entities. Trademark issues aside, there should be separate entries. Qgyu 03:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Shawn Wang, CFO of Baidu.com Inc, dies 27 Dec 07

"BEIJING, Dec 30 (Reuters) - Shawn Wang, chief financial officer of top Chinese Internet search firm Baidu.com Inc (BIDU.O: Quote, Profile, Research), died in an accident on Dec. 27, the company said.

The accident happened in China while Wang was on vacation over the Christmas holiday, Baidu said in a statement."

http://www.reuters.com/article/newIssuesNews/idUSPEK20364620071230

-- 201.37.229.117 (talk) 18:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

MP3 search banned in US

A friend just told me that Baidu's MP3 search doesn't work in the US as of Dec. 27th. A quick test proves that it doesn't (searching for 刘德华 yields no results). I'm guessing this is worth note... —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 09:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Founded 2000, launched 1999?!

According to the information in the article, the site was launched, October 11, 1999. The company however was founded, January 18, 2000.

Is this really possible? Sounds really strange to me... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.229.97.97 (talk) 21:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Why wouldn't it be? I can launch a website today without founding a company. Assume the same for this. Atheuz (talk) 13:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

ok! lah... aq pun nk balik bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.100.99.227 (talk) 10:04, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

A controversy section?

There are huge negative comments towards Baidu which seems to be left out in the article. To list a few such as P4P complain, fake information, breach of copyright, censorship, tainted milk powder and etc.

Zhenlkz (talk) 01:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Techni (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Three new services provided by Baidu but not included

I found there are three new services provided by Baidu but are not included in the "services" section which are Baidu Library(百度文库), Baidu Experience(百度经验) and Baidu around You(百度身边).

Page is not displaying correctly

Text is leaking into one of the right hand tables, using the latest version of chrome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.45.114 (talk) 15:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Baidu plagiarizes Wikipedia?

Baidu Baike is listed at Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/Abc. Should this be mentioned here? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:53, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Wouldn't be the first time. Techni (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Spark Browser. A web browser built by Baidu. Apparently.

I found out about this. There's no reference to it anywhere here. 1Minow (talk) 15:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

It seems to be based on the Chrome Browser. --Love Krittaya (talk) 05:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

NPOV?

"Baidu proactively censors its content in line with government regulations.[10]" - This article comes from a site which does nothing but China charming articles. The website itself is owned by New Tang Dynasty, an organization with a well known pro-China bias. Wikipedia specifies all sources must be neutral.

"Although Baidu is a listed company, many of Baidu's services, including ideas and interfaces, are obvious imitation of Google's." - Again blatant charming POV. What's up with these vandals? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.17.206.176 (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Japanese Government against B*idu software

• Japanese newspaper: B*idu's typing tool spying on what you write [8]
• Government warns agencies against using China’s B*idu application after data transmissions discovered [9]
• Japanese govt warns against B*idu input [10]
• เมื่อไม่นานมานี้ทางรัฐบาลญี่ปุ่นได้มีประกาศเตือนถึงประชาชน เรื่องโปรแกรมอันตรายที่ไม่ควรหามาติดตั้ง [11]
• Japan Times: Free Chinese-made software poses security risk [12]
• TechRepublic: Japanese government warns B*idu IME is spying on users [13]

--Love Krittaya (talk) 05:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

The Stamford International University (Thailand) has a recommendation against B*idu PC Faster suite due to the fact that the software has many malicious traits. [14] --Love Krittaya (talk) 05:44, 28 October 2014 (UTC)