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Demi-

This should probably also address the term demi- as used in heraldry (demi-lion, etc.), in which it means the top half, and (except for a supporter to the left of the escutcheon) means the figure will be facing to the viewer's left. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 16:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Are there any demi supporters?) —Tamfang (talk) 23:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The pelican is not always in profile in heraldry

As of the date and time I'm typing this, this article contained the sentence "The pelican is shown exclusively in profile perched in her nest with her wings either addorsed and inverted (because it is not going to fly away) or overt." That's debatable. The pelican on the Flag of the U.S. State Of Louisiana is full-front. I believe they use heraldic blazon to say this because there was a controversy arising from the fact that earlier language used the term "in her piety". Owing to the fact that few manufacturers of flags knew what "in her piety" referred to, many flags were manufactured with no drops of blood. While the manufacturers had made a good-faith effort to follow the law, they failed, because they didn't know what the law meant. At some point later than 1980, a student who had not yet graduated from high-school noticed this and objected in correspondence with state officials. New legislation clarified (or, some would say "replaced", but I wouldn't say "replaced" because it merely re-stated the old law without using the phrase "in her piety" that flag-makers don't "get") the legal specs for the State Flag. My memory of this story is that the number of chicks and the number of blood-droplets required on the pelican's breast is three. I am vague on the issue of whether that requirement comes from State Law, or whether the heraldic definition of "in her piety" as of before Louisiana even had a flag is such that the number of blood-drops and chicks must both be three. At all events the pelican is not always, in heraldry, in profile.2600:1700:6759:B000:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 01:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]