Talk:Antisemitism in 21st-century Germany

Source from TU Berlin

Deutsche Welle has linked this study from Technische Universität Berlin about antisemism on the web. It should be useful as a source. AadaamS (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I haven't read this article or Antisemitism in Europe#21st-century Germany in detail yet and don't have time now, but in the process of doing something else found these two overlapping topics in different places. This makes no sense - the information is different and either overlapping, conflicting or out of date in one source or the other, unless a lot of work is continuously done on both to keep them in sync. I propose that this become the main source of information and whatever is worth including from the section in the other one is copied over. The lead from this article can then be transcluded in the other section to keep both in sync at all times.

Also, as per the similar article about France, the name should probably include a hypen in "21st-century", as it is used here as an adjective. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Given the shocking uptick in antisemitism across Europe in this century, which followed a period when antisemitism appeared to be a fading, antiquated phenomenon, I think that we would be better served by the creation of an article on Antisemitism in 21st-century Europe, to which the material now on this page regarding Germany and France can be redirected.NotButtigieg (talk) 13:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Oppose merge on the grounds that that articles are already in WP:SUMMARY format, and there is much more of the century to go, and hence these articles need space for expansion. Regarding the proposal for a creation of Antisemitism in 21st-century Europe, I think that that would be better proposed more formally over at Talk:Antisemitism in Europe as it would require a major restructing there; much of that page is already 21st-century. Klbrain (talk) 08:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

This article is extremely decontextualized

This article is cherry-picked, decontextualized and biased with only a thinly veiled basis in Islamophobia. The article needs thorough review and contextualization, as it provides very little discussion of antisemitism while singling out a few incidents involving Muslims/Arabs and uncorroborated claims about pro-Palestinian protestors. Poorly researched and poorly written. 98.155.148.141 (talk) 07:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Generally seconded, although I would give a little more credence than the above to some claims made. The article comes across as Zionist and Islamophobic as written in several parts. The article should be rephrased to state certain claims more clearly in terms of the perception of antisemitism (especially among Jewish people) in Germany rather than accepting all claims as indisputable fact, and take greater care in distinguishing antisemitism from anti-Zionism (including in situations where the latter is taken to an extreme). That said, it is important to acknowledge the real incidents of harm referenced here, and put claims and incidents in a broader context of antisemitic actions not involving Arabic and Muslim perpetrators. The article should more explicitly acknowledge underlying political disputes (e.g. current events involving Israel and Palestine) more explicitly as they relate to the article. As it stands, the incidents are not proportional to the statistic cited in the article: If only 41% of antisemitic attacks are perpetrated by extremist Muslims, then it is unrepresentative to have 6/8 = 75% of incidents referenced have Arabic, Muslim, or pro-Palestine perpetrators (this is not calling supporters of Palestine extremist Muslims, but rather that the article frames it as such). FunctorialNonsense (talk) 21:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Seconded. Misha Wolf (talk) 16:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Definition

The first section ("Definition") should be deleted as:

• There cannot be a meaningful definition of antisemitism in 21st-century Germany which differs from definitions of antisemitism in other 21st-century countries. Note the difference in meaning between the words definition and description.
• The small extract from the IHRA definition of antisemitism is not, and does not represent, the overall IHRA definition. The way the para is worded strongly implies that the quoted words are the IHRA definition.
• The fact that the IHRA's HQ is in Berlin has no relevance to the article.

Misha Wolf (talk) 16:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Context

The second section ("Context") should be deleted or completely re-written as it is not fit for purpose. Misha Wolf (talk) 16:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)