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Requested move 31 December 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:53, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Turkish sentiment → Anti-Turkic sentiment – The article says it also covers negative sentiment towards other Turkic peoples, not just the Turkish people. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: the main topic is about the Turkish people. Beshogur (talk) 12:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Some relevant points have also been raised at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_December_23#Category:Anti-Turkism. Renerpho (talk) 14:04, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
oppose: we can move the non-turkish parts to their respective articles (the subsection about Iran to anti-Azerbaijani sentiment and the China subsection to the related article) and have this article just about ethnic Turks because the majority of the article is about Turks particularly, this should solve the category issue as well. - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 17:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose article is about Turks. "Anti-Turkic sentiment" is way too broad and I am pretty sure there are few instances of hatred towards all Turkic nations collectively. The parts of the article not dealing with Turkish people should be moved somewhere else. Super Ψ Dro 20:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Anti-Turkish sentiment is about Republic of Turkey and its citizens (Turkish people). It is not about entire Turkish people living in Central, East, North and West Asia and in Europe and North Africa (Turkic people). The article lead section is very poor which needs to be rewritten than moving. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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To be moved to other relevant articles

Iran (to anti-Azerbaijani sentiment)

Government newspaper, published a cartoon that depicted a cockroach speaking Azerbaijani, and suggested various methods of dealing with cockroaches. Dozens were arrested and scores were killed after ethnic Azerbaijanis took it to the streets in Iranian Azerbaijan to protest the racist cartoon. The government also temporarily shut down the newspaper and arrested its editor and chief. Mehrdad Qasemfar and Iranian Azerbaijani cartoonist Mana Neyestani were jailed for publishing the cartoon.^[1]^[2] In 2010, a group of scholars and human rights activists from Iran, mostly from its Iranian Azerbaijani community, wrote an open letter to Sepp Blatter, the president of FIFA at the time, and complained about the issue of racism in Iran's football stadiums directed against ethnic Azerbaijanis of the country.^[3] The same year, the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination expressed its concern at the rights of minorities in Iran, including ethnic Azerbaijanis.^[4]^{[failed verification]} In November 2015, Iranian Azerbaijanis took to the streets after IRIB-2, a state-run TV channel, aired an episode of a children's show, Fitilehha (Candle Wicks), in which an Azerbaijani boy was shown brushing his teeth with a toilet brush. Dozens of protesters were detained by Iranian authorities in the protests.^[5]^[6] In June 2017, Fare network, in a report, pointed to racist chants directed at Azerbaijani fans in Iranian stadiums.

China

From 19th century onward, tensions between Turkic people and Chinese revived with the establishment of Kashgaria and subsequent Turko-Chinese wars to control the region.^[7] This had led to the weakening of the Qing dynasty and paved way for its future collapse. The Republic of China however, failed to address the increasing tensions between Turks and Han Chinese, and conflict between two continued, known as Xinjiang Wars, when the Turkic Uyghurs raised arms to fight Chinese Army. In response, China imposed heavy military repression against the Uyghurs and other Turkic rebels, many were supported by the Soviet Union.^[8] This conflict would continue until the establishment of the People's Republic of China.

Since 1990s with Chinese economic reform, China had grown to become a new major superpower, but this has led to the increase of tensions among Uyghurs and Chinese. Thus the Chinese Government had deployed the military, increased surveillance on Uyghurs and operating re-education camps.^[9]

- Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 23:45, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Minority Report". www.vancouversun.com.
^ Fathi, Nazila (2006-05-24). "Iran Shuts Down Newspaper Over Cartoon (Published 2006)". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2021-02-10.
^ "Tractor Sazi FC and the Civil Rights Movement of Turks in Iranian Azerbaijan". www.cgscholar.com.
^ "UN urges Iran to tackle racism". www.reuters.com. 27 August 2010.
^ "Azeris Hold Protests In Iran Over Racial Slur". www.rferl.org.
^ "Rage against Iran over 'inherent' racism toward Azeris". www.dailysabah.com. 14 November 2015.
^ Dixon, Jeffrey S.; Sarkees, Meredith Reid (2015-08-12). A Guide to Intra-state Wars: An Examination of Civil, Regional, and Intercommunal Wars, 1816–2014. ISBN 9781506317984.
^ Garver, John W. (1988-09-08). Chinese-Soviet Relations, 1937–1945: The Diplomacy of Chinese Nationalism. ISBN 9780195363746.
^ Shepherd, Christian (September 12, 2019). "Fear and oppression in Xinjiang: China's war on Uighur culture". www.ft.com.

Suggestion for Section "Expressions containing the word "Turk" in various languages"

The still common german language verb "türken" (to "turk" something) should be added. It means to fake, to pretend, to counterfeit, to cheat, to manipulate and it is used do describe acts of felony and crime. It is obviously discriminating. 213.47.123.254 (talk) 14:11, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Title should be changed to Anti-turkism

The issue is clearly more than a simple "sentiment". It is anti-turkism and it should ve referred as it is. Also this issue is generally referred "anti-turkism" rather than "sentiment" in the scientific literature*. The other related topics are clearly named as "anti" like anti-semitism, anti-arabism in the wikipedia.

for example please check Pajaziti A. Turk and Turkey perception at Albanians in the beginning of 21st century. Past, Present and Future of Turkish-Albanian-Macedonian Relations. 2011 May:27-9.

178.244.87.228 (talk) 08:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Minority Report". www.vancouversun.com.

[2] Fathi, Nazila (2006-05-24). "Iran Shuts Down Newspaper Over Cartoon (Published 2006)". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2021-02-10.

[3] "Tractor Sazi FC and the Civil Rights Movement of Turks in Iranian Azerbaijan". www.cgscholar.com.

[4] "UN urges Iran to tackle racism". www.reuters.com. 27 August 2010.

[:0-5] "Azeris Hold Protests In Iran Over Racial Slur". www.rferl.org.

[6] "Rage against Iran over 'inherent' racism toward Azeris". www.dailysabah.com. 14 November 2015.

[7] Dixon, Jeffrey S.; Sarkees, Meredith Reid (2015-08-12). A Guide to Intra-state Wars: An Examination of Civil, Regional, and Intercommunal Wars, 1816–2014. ISBN 9781506317984.

[8] Garver, John W. (1988-09-08). Chinese-Soviet Relations, 1937–1945: The Diplomacy of Chinese Nationalism. ISBN 9780195363746.

[9] Shepherd, Christian (September 12, 2019). "Fear and oppression in Xinjiang: China's war on Uighur culture". www.ft.com.

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