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[edit]How many times did they actually use this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmcl2491 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Why would they use these herbacides when they knew that there were going to be major side effects? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmcl2491 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
why is there a ref to smileex? vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.5.151.28 (talk) 23:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Agent Blue is the cause of the deaths of many US Servicemen who did serve in Vietnam, but not recognized by the US. I guess so they don't have to pay for those who suffered from it. Col David Hackworth is one!
Col. David. H. Hackworth, 1930-2005 Legendary U.S. Army Guerrilla Fighter, Champion of the Ordinary Soldier
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2005 – Col. David H. Hackworth, the United States Army's legendary, highly decorated guerrilla fighter and lifelong champion of the doughboy and dogface, ground-pounder and grunt, died Wednesday in Mexico. He was 74 years old. The cause of death was a form of cancer now appearing with increasing frequency among Vietnam veterans exposed to the defoliants called Agents Orange and Blue.
"Over the final years of Col. Hackworth’s life, his wife Eilhys fought beside him during his gallant battle against bladder cancer, which now appears with sinister regularity among Vietnam veterans exposed to Agent Blue."
http://www.hackworth.com/--68.237.135.209 23:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)--68.237.135.209 23:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- There's little or no independent mention of this on the 'net.
- I did a little poking about, and the NCI statistics show no obvious increase in bladder cancer incidence over the last 20 years, although the use of cacodylic acid had skyrocketed over this same period. SEER's statistics go back to 1975 and show a clear decrease in age-adjusted bladder cancer over this period.
- Additionally, although there is a clear link between certain types of cancer and arsenic-related compounds, bladder cancer is not one of these types. The only a study that I can find on bladder cancer is from Hungary in 1980, (Urinary bladder cancer induced by chronic arsenic poisoning . Orv. Hetil., 121, 1009-1011). However there is direct published evidence to the contrary, Epidemiological studies of cancer following medical treatment with arsenic have shown an excess of skin cancers, but no clear association with other cancers has been obtained found here.
- Furthermore, while I was able to find many apocryphal stories linking Agent Orange and bladder cancer, none of them refer to Agent Blue. I'm willing to accept the possibility in the case of Orange, but given that Blue is a very different chemical, I'd want considerably more evidence.
- I'm inclined to remove this section unless someone can provide some independent sources. Maury 21:11, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- FWIW, ATSDR does list bladder cancer as a toxic effect of chronic arsenic exposure. Not disputing your findings, just sharing that piece of info. Toxcrusadr (talk) 16:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
ZNet Ecology
[edit]The quote from ZNet Ecology should be integrated into the page, referenced to the original article. I can't find the original article, so I placed the quote in {{cquote}} in the meantime. Jumping cheese Cont@ct 06:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
The changes I made to this article were to more speciffically detail the way Agent Blue was used in Vietnam. I also changed some numbers because the numbers that were previously posted didn't add up, with one statistic sayin 20 million gallons were used, and the next saying that around 4 million were used altogether. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chsurles (talk • contribs) 16:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Advocacy sources
[edit]"Agent Blue And The Business Of Killing Rice" By Gerard Greenfield in Zmag has lamentations like "Imagine the suffering, then, of those who were directly exposed to the bombardments of Agent Blue in rice paddies." Other sources are preferable for facts. 86.121.18.17 (talk) 07:02, 22 June 2013 (UTC)