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This page has likely been created before, but should remain on Wikipedia in the likely event that other people will be involved closely with Owl City. There is sufficient information on Adam not pertaining to Owl City to merit a page, such as his involvement with other musical projects (see deleted history). Lagomen (talk) 06:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merged

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I assume the separate page I made, 'List of Adam Young projects', was merged with this one because content from that page is now on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveWiilliams (talkcontribs) 19:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of collabarations

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Both the collabarations on here are 'artist ft. Adam Yound' and not 'artist ft. Owl City', I think that they're innapropriate here and should only be mentioned on his page. Anyone agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.6.87.12 (talk) 22:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Projects?

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What happened to all of his other projects? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.173.164.58 (talk) 23:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to add an extra sentence after it says, "Young has often referred to himself as being deeply shy and socially introverted." I would like to add, "But he does not let this hold him back when it comes to putting on concerts and worldwide tours for his albums." I think just leaving it saying he is shy and very introverted makes him sound like a hermit or someone who is afraid of everything, and that's not how this person is at all. Even though it is true he's shy and introverted, I think the following sentence I'm requesting would be appreciated. Anyone agree?


Helper4Adam (talk) 01:32, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds purely subjective. If you can find a reference for it, the we should add it. Otherwise, better to exclude. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. In this video interview Adam Young talks about being an introvert but also shows how he is still able to do what he does, without letting the shyness take over. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJnhbHGRiZ4 Is this what you mean as a reference? If you want me to pull a quote from it I will. Just let me know. I'll keep looking if a non-video resource is preferred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helper4Adam (talkcontribs) 13:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a quote from the video I sent. Maybe you can put this right after, "But he does not let this hold him back when it comes to putting on concerts and worldwide tours for his albums."

In an interview about his introversion Young said, “I can’t put my finger on that defining moment every night on stage where I’m standing behind the curtain, terrified. Stage fright is in full force...and suddenly the first song starts and all of that stuff goes away...I can push all that aside and just get lost in the music.”

Let me know if this will work! Thanks

Helper4Adam (talk) 20:05, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Did you get the last message I sent you above? Is this there any other research I can do to make it better?[reply]

You guys got completely off topic. The initial creator of this section wanted to know why the rest of Adam Young's projects aren't listed, and instead you all go off about him being introverted? Seriously, there are considerably more musical projects than listed here, so why aren't they here when they clearly once were? 70.29.84.122 (talk) 17:00, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Same thing happened to his admission that he had assburgers. He even spelled it out a*s*s*b*u*r*g*e*r*s. Instead, Wiki lies and claims he made a much more mainstream and less insane claim that he as Asperger's. Why lie to protect him?

Citations required

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This article has less number of citations kindly provide proper citations and try to improve article according to Wikipedia policies and if you allow my self I can certainly help you in expanding it. Thanks.-- Faizan Munawar Varya chat contributions 13:00, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Above you can see I (Helper4Adam) was trying to get an extra sentence added that has do with with this person's introversion. My quote came from this source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJnhbHGRiZ4. I'm not sure how to cite this though. If you can help, thank you! This is the quote I wanted to add from the video (copy and pasted from above) ~ In an interview about his introversion Young said, “I can’t put my finger on that defining moment every night on stage where I’m standing behind the curtain, terrified. Stage fright is in full force...and suddenly the first song starts and all of that stuff goes away...I can push all that aside and just get lost in the music.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helper4Adam (talkcontribs) 21:47, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where did the list of minor projects come from? I would suggest that any that don't have citations, or their own Wikipedia article, or any other mention in this article should be removed. Jonathanmjefferies (talk) 13:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Asperger's

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It's way too late for me to be actually finding good sources and adding it, but Adam mentioned in an interview that he has Asperger Syndrome. I heard this somewhere a while back, and just saw that it wasn't here, and a quick search turned up that interview. I don't know if this source in itself is good enough (I'll be honest, it looked like a legit news article, but the URL has the word "blog", and that's as far as I got with it). We should at least use this as a starting point to verify this with better or more sources, and I'm posting this either as a reminder to myself to look into it, and to nudge other editors to do the same. Arathald (talk) 09:30, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Add it and any categories that may be related. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to Invisiboy42293 for beating me to adding it. I checked around, and can't find any other RS that confirm this, though it seems that he often/sometimes talks about it in interviews or on stage, so we at least have a sniff test confirmation of this (and, completely subjectively, it makes sense -- I suspected it long before I heard it directly, and a lot of his music talks about it, albeit indirectly). I'll keep looking, and add a second RS if I can find any. Arathald (talk) 08:40, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Collaborations section

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Perhaps someone could convert the collaborations to a single table. The columns would include the album where the work appeared and the type of collaboration. Making it sortable would be good but initial sort order should be year, earliest first, then alpha by title. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:54, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Family background?

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Could someone add some info about his parents?


Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.174.68 (talk) 22:28, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interview where Adam Young mentioned Asperger's

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Esther cerulean blue (talk) 20:40, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adam young mentioned he had Asperger's in that interview. It's inaccurate to use the word 'stated'.

After reviewing the source, I concede that it's an off-hand mention so it shouldn't be in the lede either. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:20, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

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174.25.205.161 (talk) 20:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC) He went to Wilson E. School where his mom worked as a ESL teacher. He visited back in 2010. He graduated high school at Owatonna High School ( OHS)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Massive amount of Side Projects

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Adam Young has had over 30 side projects to date (the earliest being around 2002-2003)

Around 2007, he "canned" most of them and focused mainly on Owl City and Port Blue.

If possible, would a section with just a list of them all be desired? (no description, since about 50% of them are simply garage band trash not really worth talking about in detail XD)

I recently acquired them all through an amazing turn of events (no joke). So I have years, albums, etc.


Edit: I will also note that most of them have still have intact PureVolume/MySpace accounts, if citations are the only worry.

RhettGedies (talk) 18:22, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Finished! The section has been set-up! All projects have at least one reference, save "Casey's Pizza." I own the one track from that project....so I know it existed and what year it was. Unfortunately, the MySpace account was deleted awhile back. :(

Other than that, looks good to me! RhettGedies (talk) 06:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the references are primary sources and don't seem to indicate that Young was involved. For instance, the PureVolume material's only clue that Young may have been involved is "Owatonna, MN".
Song titles should be in quotes. Albums are italicized. Neither is applied to the added material. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Well then, we should probably deleted it then. Because besides those accounts and the "common knowledge" factor of hardcore Hootowls, there is nothing else.

I must note, Adam has said time and time again that Owatonna is a small town. The chances of all these projects sprouting up from others is iffy and more unbelievable. Another thing is the fact that most the projects (especially the PureVolume ones) have the running theme of "lunacy" and "pointless zany/comedic" (all the PureVolume descriptions of the bands make NO sense. One even says "Andy was not found on this server Andy was not found on this server, about 7-10 times) So the assumption is relatively "assumable" (not totally provable, of course).

I will also note that most of the MySpace accounts are tied together in the sense that on their "friend list" they have the other projects. (aka. The Perfect Theory is friends with Windsor Airlift is friends with Seagull Orchestra, etc)

RhettGedies (talk) 16:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I have removed the section, since none of the citations reference that it was Adam Young who created the projects. Yes, Owatonna is a small town and the chance that they are all made by different people is slim, but Wikipedia must not contain original research, so we cannot synthesize these sources to hypothesize that Young was their creator. Please do not reinsert the information unless you can provide reliable sources that directly state that Young created those specific side projects. Mz7 (talk) 19:05, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You canned all of them instantly without realizing there are a decent few where Adam directly sings in them, which verifies involvement. Plus, as I said above. The MySpace ones are mostly connected (Keehar, Insect Airport, etc). "Sailboats" off An Airplane Carried Me to Bed is originally from the side project "Seagull Orchestra." Chester McWiggins and the Kowboy Kidz has a pic of Adam and his friends for their official band art. The Grizzly is obviously Adam for the same reason. The Perfect Theory has Adam as lead singer in one of the songs. Windsor Airlift (and Glacier Island) don't even need to be proved. Isle had valid sources.

So, some (if not 50%) of the projects have verification. Thank You.

RhettGedies (talk) 22:57, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I would feel better if we described Young's involvement in those "decent few" in prose in the "Early career" section, rather than just listing them. We can and should talk about the most important ones that are directly verified through reliable sources, but I don't think there is a necessity to list every single one. Especially when they are not explicitly and unambiguously credited to Adam Young. Respectfully, Mz7 (talk) 03:12, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you are flexible. :)

Let me push this a step further. XD Though total proof of most of the PureVolume accounts can't be totally proved.......95% of them have a running theme of absurd humor/meaningless descriptions that indicate they are from the same person(s). One even says "Andy was not found on this sever" seven to ten times (Andy Johnson being current lead of Windsor Airlift). It is almost IMPOSSIBLE that these are not from the same group of people, aka Adam and friends. Plus, they have a running theme in the sound department as well. I'm a hootowl nut, I've done my research (I also own all the projects). Though 100 percent certainty can never really take place (unless Adam rambled all 33 off in an interview), fans trust he did them. The evidence doesn't really point anywhere else.

Obviously this isn't a super evidence backed argument. It runs on common sense, mixed with a listening ear.

I'm passionate about this because I want fans to have access to everything "Adam Young" they can. I'd like the infamous 33 projects to be common knowledge amoung fans. If that isn't possible, I have to be happy with owning them myself and just live with that. XD

Totally willing to work with you, all things aside. :)

RhettGedies (talk) 06:52, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence for side projects

Windsor Airlift


Novel (found!) here


The Atlantic (found!) here, Windsor Airlift cited the project...though the link is dead.


American Jesus (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Apes With Guns (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Aquarium (found!) (here) Adam's vocals can be heard. Same genre and style as Novel, which has also been proven.


Beat Master Deluxe (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Blue Dallas (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.) Similar screamo to Novel and Aquarium. Possibly Adam's vocals.


Charlton Heston and the Blast Beats (found!) here Adam's vocals can be heard in the project


Half Nelson Flying Corkscrew Clothesline (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts. The project does have one of the same tracks as The Sports. Evidence they are from the same person.)


Isle (found!) (evidence here and here)


Join The Dark Side, You Knob (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Slam Dance (found!....sorta) (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.) Same vocals as The Grizzly, which is clearly Adam.


Slingshot Powerbomb (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Spinning Skull Smash (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


The Wellington Giggle-Bomb Experience here Adam's vocals can be heard in the project


Tombstone Piledriver (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Understory (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts.)


Basketball (found!) (obvious MySpace account) additional reference


Brother Reed, You Have Messed Up My Afro (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts)


Chester McWiggins and the Kowboy Kidz (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


El Uno Clarence, The One Clarence (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


Keehar (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


Nuclear Suplex (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


Riders of Rohan (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


Seagull Orchestra (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


The Perfect Theory (found!) (obvious MySpace account) additional reference


The Sports (found!....sorta) (evidence not currently found besides description tie-in between PureVolume accounts. The project does have the one of the same tracks as Half Nelson Flying Corkscrew Clothesline. Evidence they are from the same person.) Adam's voice can also be heard in the background at the end of one of the tracks.


Casey's Pizza (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


Dolphin Park (found!) (MySpace account)


Insect Airport (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


The Grizzly (found!) (obvious MySpace account)


Glacier Island (obvious Windsor Airlift affiliate)


Can You Smell What The Rock Is Cooking? (found!....sorta) (Has the same movie snips from it as "El Uno Clarence, The One Clarence" does.) (The numerous lines/clips cited in the song "Gimme Some Burgers" is from the little-known movie, Heavyweights. It is featured and used for effect in both "Gimme Some Burgers" and in one of El Uno Clarence, the One Clarence's songs. This ties them together. In a throwback post, Windsor Airlift also cited the movie. here)


  • PureVolume accounts all have the same zany descriptions and style of wit. It becomes a realm of "common sense" for these.


Update: went searching for vocals and found a few more projects that has Adam in them.

RhettGedies (talk) 06:29, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, let's do this baby steps. I still don't think we should be posting a list of all Young's minor projects; especially when they are so insignificant that we have to rely solely on common sense speculation and primary sources to tell that he created the projects. What I do think we should do is mention that he had several minor projects prior to Owl City. Windsor Airlift is clearly the most noteworthy out of all of them. As a start, I've restructured the "Early career" section to surround it. Feel free to expand upon it. (As a matter of fact, it might actually be reasonable to merge the entire Windsor Airlift article into this one.) --Mz7 (talk) 18:42, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the "Basketball" one is Adam Young. The Facebook post appears to refer to [1], not the MySpace account. Remember, do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. See WP:SYNTH. Mz7 (talk) 18:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all you've said, save the suggested merger. Windsor Airlift has enough material to stay as it is, in my opinion. Plus, he isn't very involved in it as of 2009-ish. To merge it would imply it's predominately "his thing".

It's a shame most of the PureVolume accounts are broken and don't play the tracks anymore. They worked as of early-2012 when I found them. I came back to them a month or so back and they didn't work. Was really glad when I found that torrent download that contained them all.

Whoops! Didn't look into that reference enough I guess. However, the picture on Basketball's MySpace page is clearly Adam Young, Andy Johnson, and Anthony Johnson. Plus, the account is tied to the other projects as further proof.

RhettGedies (talk) 19:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Associated Acts?

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I feel having Carly Rae Jepsen that high on the list (or even at all) is uncalled for. She collaborated with him once, that's all.

I feel the list should look like this: Owl City, Windsor Airlift, Sky Sailing, Port Blue, Swimming With Dolphins, Lights, Matthew Thiessen

(Most important projects of him to singers and song writers he has worked with more than once.)

RhettGedies (talk) 06:37, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Once for a very big hit though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:43, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then. How bout we put her down by Lights? Would that be satisfactory?

Again, I think his important personal projects (from greatest to smallest) should be first, followed by other artists he has worked with (aka. Jepsen, Lights, Thiessen)

RhettGedies (talk) 16:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While the other associations are stronger, they are not as well-known as Jepsen. I'll let you decide though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Young and instruments

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I know for a fact he can play drums and guitar.

Is there a reason these were not included in his instruments section?

RhettGedies (talk) 16:01, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The documentation states "Instruments listed in the infobox should be limited to only those that the artist is primarily known for using. The instruments infobox parameter is not intended as a WP:COATRACK for every instrument the subject has ever used." He's known as a vocalist and keyboard player. That's why those are listed. I'm not sure that programming is an instrument, but it makes sense to leave it in. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:14, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He plays with a guitar in his concerts a decent deal of the time. See the film documentary about Owl City, Live From Los Angeles: here. Here are some instagram pics: here, here, here, and here. Plus, Sky Sailing is primarily acoustic guitar.

And though he doesn't play drums in Owl City, he played it in Windsor Airlift and a great deal of his side projects (including Port Blue). He also still plays it in his spare time. here

Drums is iffy based on the parameters you've set.....but guitar is a no-brainer. He uses it quite frequently.

Guitar = Owl City

Drums = a LOT of his other projects

RhettGedies (talk) 16:30, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But he's not known for those other projects, they're completely unknown, and he plays keys. All of his videos: keys. All of his Owl City recordings: keys & programming. See http://www.allmusic.com/artist/owl-city-mn0001030695/credits (no drums & guitars there) [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17] and [18]. They don't mention keys. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I've reverted to vocals, which some in the album project don't believe is an instrument, keys and programming becauase of an edit war over "drums" which is clearly not supported as one of his main instruments. Walter Görlitz (talk)

Hello everyone, clearly there are some users on this article who are unable to accept fact as grounds to edit. Wikipedia can't thrive as a publicly edited encyclopaedia if its editors would rather serially revert others' attempts to improve the article than simply accept that the revisions benefit the article.

Firstly, Adam Young is "known to play" guitar and drums just as much as he is "known to play" keyboards and sing. Young even released a whole album (Sky Sailing) of himself singing and playing guitar and drums. It is stated in the liner notes of all of his albums, and is clearly visible on every video of his concerts. I have linked to some examples below for everyone's benefit and will cite them as sources to change the article - how anyone can object to this change when there is clear evidence is unfathomable.

Adam Young playing drums:

Source #1 Source #2

Adam Young playing guitar:

Source #1 Source #2

Secondly, the genres of most Owl City albums are incorrect. If anyone can cite the current genres on the articles I would really appreciate it, although it's easy to predict there won't be any.

I'd like to reach a consensus on these changes so we can start to edit appropriately without throwing around pointless warnings on talk pages and asserting the virtual power over others that some of us seem to think we possess.

Thank you. --Samcooke343 (talk) 00:40, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It doesn't change the fact that Template:Infobox musical artist#instrument, says
Instruments listed in the infobox should be limited to only those that the artist is primarily known for using. The instruments infobox parameter is not intended as a WP:COATRACK for every instrument the subject has ever used.
Thanks for your new information, but drums and guitar are not his primary instruments. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:50, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Swimming With Dolphins

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Since the destruction of the Swimming With Dolphins article, it has basically been back-stabbed with literally nothing on Wikipedia about it AT ALL.

I mean, I think I read the reason given for it's closure (besides its notability) was that "Adam Young's page had adequate description of it". I literally see nothing except 2-3 mentions of the name. Nothing about Austin Tofte, nothing about the releases it has put out, where it currently is, etc. Nothing.

Even a sentence or two would be better than what it has right now.

RhettGedies (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest we consider giving Swimming With Dolphins its own article once again. Take an artist like Sunsun, she has an article it it is much more minor than a SWD article would be.

Plus, Adam Young hasn't been a part of SWD since 2008, in the whole scheme of the paragraphs on SWD on the Adam Young page, he is only important in about a fourth of it. SWD has its own life, and it needs a small article (like Windsor Airlift).

RhettGedies (talk) 19:24, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Taylor Swift Incident

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I am thinking of adding a small section (either above or below the Flames Pond, sub-section of "Personal life") that addresses the facts of the 2010 Taylor Swift incident (and cover song) that threw many fans into the "gossip mill" sparked by Adam's notable post: here

Any thoughts?

RhettGedies (talk) 00:36, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If, and only if, a secondary source can be found to discuss it. Without that, it's just fan cruft. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Young was interviewed about it several times and I'm sure there are other articles written.

RhettGedies (talk) 01:52, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK. If you can find one, it's golden. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the title of the section that talks about this from "The Taylor Swift Incident". I feel like that overdramatizes the article, and we shouldn't be doing that unless we have sources that also describe the events as "The Taylor Swift Incident", which I assume there are none. Mz7 (talk) 04:03, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Becoming a problem...

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Dear everyone,

I'm starting this section not because I want to, but because I feel I have to.

This article is becoming subject to a large amount of (questionable) reversions, mostly by Walter Görlitz (talk) - a serial edit-reverter, may I add - and therefore is turning into quite a battleground.

The first subject I'd like to raise is whether "drums" should be included as an instrument on Young's article. I would vote in the way of YES, as Young is known for playing drums on every studio album he's produced and even in a live setting (something several thousand people, including myself, would vouch for). Walter seems to think that "drums" should not be included, even though - in his own words - he says "Only those instruments that he's known for playing" should be included. I'm not talking about including "triangle" or "wood-block" here, but Young does play drums frequently.

The second is the new side project sections, recently added by my friend RhettGedies (talk), who seems to be making some great edits around here at the moment - thank you. However I do feel the article is now a little overloaded with new sections, with smaller and smaller headings that don't look anywhere close to visually appealing, so I took it upon myself to (what I thought was) clean the article up a little. This edit was quickly reverted by RhettGedies (talk), in association with Walter Görlitz (talk), with "badly formatted" as a reason, and my suspected "new-ness" to Wikipedia being questioned in the process. Questionable formatting was the whole reason I cleaned up in the first place.

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on this, although I suspect this letter will be shot down pretty quickly.

Best regards, Sam. Samcooke343 (talk) 10:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Sam,

First: I'd like to point out your "drums" argument with Walter was already taken up by me months ago (see section above). Though he may seem like a stiff stickler, he knows the guidelines better than anyone I know and has a well-deserved reputation. Though him and I butt heads occasionally on many other articles (this one included), I know that he is not creating revisions without good reason.

Second: My work on the "early career"/side-projects section is obviously pretty personal, yes (due to the fact I spent a few days worth compiling the sources and doing the writing). I felt your three-paragraph revision crammed the 30+ projects that was: 1) was italicized (but we also clarified that). 2) took years away. I was showing readers what he was doing since the start every year. 3) I didn't dedicate more than a sentence usually to each "more notable" project (notice I didn't do all thirty). But I felt a sentence or two each to the bigger minor projects summed up what they were about perfectly in a nutshell. 4) As I mentioned above, the revision seemed....crammed. It was unappealing (at least to my eye) upon readthrough and left me dissatisfied as my "OCD" took over and wanted to give it more room to breath again. XD

Anyways, totally understand the anger you could possibly be feeling. I had a hard time when I first encountered Walter (he helped delete a decently big article I had written and invested months into), however, he has become a valued friend who is good in a jam when Guidelines come into play due to his picky-ness. As far as I've seen, he has never done anything out of personal bias, merely, the guidelines say such and such, etc.

Blessings,

RhettGedies (talk) 13:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry feel ganged-up on. My edit was simply per the documentation. Read them. Cheers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Too many small sections

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Whoa! Are all these individual sections really necessary? Most of them are only a couple sentences long. If we aren't expanding them any time soon, we should consolidate them. The only reason for this is because it looks better and because it condenses the page. Mz7 (talk) 03:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and consolidated the sections. The most glaring thing I see in the article is a lack of balance. We say a lot about Young's background, his early career, and even his personal life (which we should be cautious about because he is a living person and can be affected by anything misleading we write here). With Adam Young, the elephant in the room is obviously Owl City. But this article doesn't talk as much about Owl City than it does with his background, early career, and personal life. The fact is, more secondary sources out there discuss Adam Young in connection with Owl City. As a result, we should be reporting more things about Adam Young in connection with Owl City in this article. We need to balance our coverage of the subject. I will start work on this article soon. Mz7 (talk) 04:01, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the part "Personal Life" you need to add the information about his new girlfriend Abbey Olmsted, who also collaborated with the vocals of some of his songs from Mobile Ochestra and cover posted on his Souncloud. -Hootowl Ariana — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.43.54.223 (talk) 00:44, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not unless you provide a reliable source to support this relationship. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We can find a lot of information on her Instagram account. For example, her lastest post:https://www.instagram.com/p/BEMMpipLpRF/?taken-by=anapollopeach This post iscontains a picture of their names. There others where we can see Adam too. But Adam hasn't talked about it yet.-Hootowl Ariana — Preceding unsigned comment added by 191.98.154.121 (talk) 16:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

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This page should not be speedily deleted because Adam Young is a real person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:206:4180:630:1157:34C2:2759:2AA4 (talk) 03:34, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

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One of my favorite aspects of Wikipedia is its usefulness as a source for general information on a wide variety of topics. This page should not be speedily deleted because there is a lot of information related directly to Adam Young, and his other projects, located on this page. To acquire the same amount of information without this page will require searching multiple other pages (i.e. Owl City specific, Port Blue specific, Sky Sailing specific). Is it because of the Adam Young Wikipedia page that I know about his other projects, and much of the other information about him and his work. To search multiple pages causes the information to become disjointed, will inhibit the readers comprehension, and allow some information to fall through the cracks. I implore you, do not delete this page.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.121.164 (talk) 13:20, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Adam Young which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 02:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]