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Notability

With respect, I think Abe Piasek is a notable figure -- I intended to put his entry in Holocaust Survivors, which is where he's linked -- not as a notable person in NC.

A criticism is that this entry is:

"Biography, written like a memorial obituary, of a person whose only apparent notability claim is having been a speaker at local high schools in a single city."

This is not correct -- Abe has spoken at cities and military bases throughout NC. He also spoke to a few schools in Florida before he moved to NC.

"This is referenced about 50 per cent to primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, like directory entries and YouTube clips and content on the self-published websites of organizations he was directly affiliated with, and about 50 per cent to purely local media coverage in his hometown media market."

His coverage is mainly in local media, but there was also an article from People Magazine about how he met with one of his liberators.

"There's nothing "inherently" notable about speaking to youth to discuss your life experiences or accompanying them on a field trip, and the amount of sourcing shown here is not sufficient to make him more notable than the thousands going on millions of other people in the world who've done the same things."

Again, with respect, there are fewer than 100,000 Holocaust survivors left (and that's using a broad definition of Holocaust survivor -- if you limit it to people who actually spent time in slave labor camps or concentration camps, you're probably under 25,000 people worldwide). The courage it took for him to tell his story in a cattle car when most survivors will not go near that cattle car makes him extraordinary.

I'll add more sources and we'll see what other folks think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldbergHistory (talk • contribs) 10:24, 18 January 2020 (UTC)