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Kanu Sarda (September 17, 2024). "Kolkata rape-murder: Supreme Court calls CBI status report 'worse and disturbing'". India Today. Retrieved September 17, 2024. The top court also directed Wikipedia to remove the name of the victim from its platform while hearing the suo motu case concerning the rape and murder of a trainee doctor at Kolkata's RG Kar Medical College and Hospital.
Aroon Deep (September 18, 2024). "Wikipedia parent moves to avert confrontation with SC over R.G. Kar victim identity". The Hindu. Retrieved September 18, 2024. The Foundation does not as a policy edit or censor articles, complicating its ability to directly change the contents of the Wikipedia entry on the incident. Instead, a representative for the foundation participated in an existing user discussion on whether the victim's name should be mentioned in the article on the incident, and the name has been removed, for now, by volunteer editors.
The two articles should not be merged because of the following reasons:
1. The National Task Force (NTF) for safety of medical professionals at workplace deals with all forms of violence against healthcare professionals at work. It is not only for sexual violence. The Supreme Court of India, which has instituted this taskforce, has made this very clear in its order of 20 August 2024. Check here:[1]
2. The NTF is not investigating the Kolkata rape and muder case. Although that incident triggered the creation of the NTF, the NTF is looking at a broader issue of all forms of workplace violence (WPV) against healthcare professionals all over India. Thus the two articles cannot be merged as they are different issues. Again do refer to the Supreme Court order of point (1).
3. There have been many other serious violence against medical personnel in India. Refer Aruna Ramchandra Shanbaug and Vandana Das cases as two examples. All these have led to the need for the creation of this NTF.
4. There have been several attempts to bring in legislation in India to deal with all types of workplace violence (WPV) against healthcare professionals but none have succeeded. This NTF report could lead to a comprehensive law against WPV for medical personnel in India. Again do refer to the Supreme Court order of point (1). HorizonNew (talk) 01:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Points 2 and 4 are unsourced. Point 3's crucial led to the need part is unsourced.
NTEMP says you need to prove that this task force will still be remembered and covered by newspapers after some time passes. There need to be sources saying it will continue to exist and achieve something, and be different from the millions of non-notable short-lived task forces that sat around and did nothing. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 03:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
Newspaper source (apart from the primary Supreme Court order) for my Points 1 and 2 that this NTF is dealing with all kinds of workplace violence (WPV) against healthcare professionals:
"According to the terms of reference, the national task force will prepare an action plan categorised under two heads: a) prevention of violence against medical professionals and providing safe working conditions; b) providing an enforceable national protocol for dignified and safe working conditions for interns, residents, senior residents, doctors, nurses, and all medical professionals."[2]
Source for Point 3:
"Women are at particular risk of sexual and non-sexual violence in these settings. Due to ingrained patriarchal attitudes and biases, relatives of patients are more likely to challenge women medical professionals. In addition to this, female medical professionals also face different forms of sexual violence at the workplace by colleagues, seniors and persons in authority. Sexual violence has had its origins even within the institution, the case of Aruna Shanbag being a case in point." From Supreme Court of India order dated 20 August 2024 (refer my earlier PDF link).
Source for Point 4:
"Several States, such as Maharashtra4 , Kerala5 , Karnataka6 , Telangana7 , West Bengal8 , Andhra Pradesh9 and Tamil Nadu10 have enacted legislation to protect healthcare service professionals from violence and damage to property. All these enactments prohibit any act of violence against medical professionals. The offence is non-bailable and punishable with three years of imprisonment. However, these enactments do not address the institutional and systemic causes that underlie the problem. An enhanced punishment without improving institutional safety standards falls short of addressing the problem effectively." From Supreme Court of India order dated 20 August 2024 (refer my earlier PDF link).
Note: The Supreme Court is the most important source since the NTF was created based on its order dated 20 August 2024.
Does the last sentence of the previous comment "There is no indication that it will exist or achieve anything, or be different from the millions of non-notable short-lived task forces that sat around and did nothing" mean that every taskforce in this world will be "non-notable" and "short-lived" and "do nothing"? I am sure there is no reliable source/proof for this conclusion. HorizonNew (talk) 04:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. The primary source for point 3 and 4 is still weak, but you have addressed my INHERITORG concern by using Hindustan Times.
I should have phrased my last sentence better. Basically, I think we should wait until the task force actually achieves a few results before we write an article about them. After that, we want to make sure newspapers still care about this task force in like 6 months. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 04:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do not merge. It is a task force created not for making suggestions and reforms at one specific hospital. It is an overall task force created for making nationwide suggestions. Its activities are not just related to the one incident. Albeit the Kolkata incident triggered the making of the task force, but the task force itself is a prominent body. Similar examples are September 11 attacks, 9/11 Commission. VSankeerthSai1609 (talk) 08:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - The taskforce is not a parliamentary or statutory or permanent or legal entity, but an ad-hoc task force to submit its report/suggestions. It will automatically be dissolved once its submits its report/suggestions. As it has stemmed from the cognisance of 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident, it should be merged there until substantial content is there for a standalone article. WP:CFORK. Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 10:33, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we should wait and give it a few months to see where it'll go. If it turns out to be a temporary institution, it can be merged later. If it stays significant, it can stay. Nakonana (talk) 21:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge for now - I think's a decent chance this will end up with enough attention across multiple topics to be a stand-alone article. Right now it's WP:ONEEVENT (and yes, I know that's more about people, but this task force is only notable within the context of this event). A short paragraph, probably under reactions, on how the group was formed and the purpose is for now sufficient. If there is continued coverage and more in depth coverage on what it produces, changing that redirect back to a standalone article, adding a main article template and everything is good. If nothing much ever comes from the task force (WP:CRYSTAL, y'all) then we're got the relevent information in the relevant article. Ravensfire (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravensfire (talk • contribs) 18:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
temporary merge : Currently task force is in its nascent stage. Given the circumstances and unfolding situations on the ground I think it will end being foundation for some national reforms in IN. When that happens it may be considered as separate topic and can have separate article. For now it is only appropriate that we merge it with this article. `~ᴀɴᴋʀᴀᴊ ɢɪʀɪ🎇✨( C • Talk )03:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I agree with the conclusion of the RfC. However, we should at least add her pseudo name to the article and the "other names" field of the infobox. Thanks.
Common spelling seems to be Sanjay Roy. Perhaps "Rai" it could be mentioned as an alternate transliteration. I think Bihari is a place and not part of his name. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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