Talk:1898 VFL grand final

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This needs citations, not just general references to be considered for GA.--Grahame (talk) 03:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 03:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 05:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Not a brother of his Fitzroy team-mate

The extended literature dutifully repeats the erroneous assertion — the very first appearance of which can not be identified — that two sets of brothers (Bill Dalton and Jack Dalton, and Jim Grace and Mick Grace) played for Fitzroy in the 1898 VFL Grand Final. Although the assertion is true in the case of Jim and Mick Grace, Bill and Jack Dalton were not brothers (and, it would seem, were not even distantly related).

• The two individuals concerned were born in the precisely same year (1876).
• The two individuals concerned were born five weeks apart — Bill on 11 March, and Jack on 16 April — making it impossible for them to be "brothers".
• They each had entirely different parents:
  • Bill was the son of William Dalton (1845-1914), and Anna Dalton (1853-1925), née Brophy.
  • Jack was the son of John James Dalton (1849-1890), and Margaret Dalton (1857-1902), née Manning.
• Finally, this unfortunate mix-up may have been caused by the fact that "Bill Dalton" did, indeed, have an older brother "Jack": John Joseph "Jack" Dalton (1873-1943) (Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria Births Registration no.25309/1873). Lindsay658 (talk) 02:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)