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Proposal to make significant improvements to the page[edit]

~~All~~ Most of the changes are based on information I found on wikipedia itself. I can look up the sources again if necessary.
Emdosis (talk) 16:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind that there are several Hebrew dialects; Ashkenazi, Sephardi and modern Israeli Hebrew have different pronunciation from Biblical Hebrew and from each other. == Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 17:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If they don't contrast with the existing vowels listed, there's no point in adding them to the key, which adopts broad phonetic transcription (as do all non-English keys, see MOS:PRON). Nardog (talk) 03:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the proposed additions I've added are either accepted transliterations (even the 'ḏ' I added, as can be seen here) or common transliteration choices like ph in the word 'Sepharadi'. Emdosis (talk) 06:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article you linked talks about not adding ambiguous phonemes for foreign languages unless they're linked to "a description of the phonology of the language in question". The only phoneme I added so far was /ɔ/, which has a dedicated page. As do all my other proposed phonemes. Emdosis (talk) 06:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My proposals are as follows:
1.1 Removing phonemic symbols from the romanization column in the vowels table
1.2 Removing unsubstantiated romanization letter 'ǩ' from the page (and replacing it with the correct character 'ḵ')
2.1 Adding missing romanization characters for‎ consonants:
ב: ḇ
ד: ḏ
‎ ו‎: w & ṿ
ט: ṭ
כ: ḵ
ע: ŋ, ġ
פ: ph
צ: z
ק: ḳ
שׂ: ś
‎ת: ṯ
2.2. Adding missing romanization characters for vowels:
Zeire: ei/ej, ē
Shva: '
Kamatz (both): â (instead of the 'ɔ')
3.1. Adding missing phonemics for consonants
ט: /tˤ/, /θʼ/
ע: /ʁ/
פ: /ɸ/
שׂ: /ɬ/
3.2 Adding missing phonemics for vowels
Zeirei: /ei/, /ɛ/
Segol: /ɛ/
Shva: /ɛ/
Cholam: BH: /o̞/ MH: /ɔ/
Kamatz: BH: /ɑ/
1.3 Removing incorrect phonemic for Kamatz Katan: o (replacing it with /ɔ/)
3.3 adding regular 'bay' for Tseirei as it is also pronounced as a /beɪ/
Emdosis (talk) 00:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC) [Latest edit: 22:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)][reply]