Frenemies (podcast)
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Starring | Ethan Klein Trisha Paytas |
Genre | Comedy Drama |
Length | 53-153 minutes |
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Original release | September 15, 2020 – June 8, 2021 |
Provider | H3 Podcast |
Frenemies was a podcast hosted by Trisha Paytas and Ethan Klein on the H3 Podcast. The podcast focused on discussing personal experiences, pop culture, internet drama and mental health.[1] It consisted of 39 episodes and two accompanying vlogs. Paytas and Klein's friendship was occasionally tumultuous, leading to episodes that were incomplete due to a verbal argument.[2] The podcast came to an end during its 39th episode, after a dispute with Paytas and Klein about podcast revenue[3] and production ownership.[4] Despite this, "Frenemies" gained recognition in the podcasting realm and found a place in numerous Top 50 lists,[5][6] frequently pulling in millions of viewers per episode.[4][7]
Background
[edit]In May 2019, YouTuber Ethan Klein of h3h3Productions released a video titled "Instagram vs. Reality," in which he criticized the heavy editing and filtering of photos on social media.[8][9] In this video he criticized Paytas’ excessive editing of their photos.[10] Paytas responded with a series of tweets, calling Klein a "disgusting piece of shit" and accusing him of causing harm to young girls.[11] The two engaged in a back-and-forth exchange, with Klein mocking Paytas in subsequent videos.
Eventually, Klein and Paytas reconciled and even appeared together on the H3 Podcast in October 2019.[12] Following this, the Kleins had Paytas back on the podcast to compete in their series entitled "the BacH3lorette," a parody of ABC's The Bachelorette. It was this time that Paytas connected with Moses Hacmon, brother of Hila Klein, Ethan's wife and, during the initial COVID-19 lockdowns of 2020, started a relationship with Hacmon[13] whom she later married.[14] In September 2020, the podcast was launched, with the first episodes' title ("Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother - Frenemies #1") referencing the start of their relationship.[15]
Content
[edit]Frenemies primarily revolved around Paytas and Klein's unique friendship and the dynamic that came with it. The podcast was described as having a very open dialog about mental health.[2][16] They often engaged in feuds with other creators, such as members of the Vlog Squad.[17][18] On occasions, the podcast featured guests, such as Dr. Drew Pinsky,[19] Jeff Wittek,[20][21] and Hila Klein.
Show conclusion
[edit]In the ending of Episode 39 (entitled "Talking About Gabbie Hanna - Frenemies # 39") Ethan and Trisha got into a dispute over the production of the podcast and the revenue sharing they had set up[22] which ultimately led to Paytas leaving set before the podcast had ended. Klein had set up a 55/45 revenue share for the podcast, claiming that his extra 5%[23] would be utilized to cover the production costs.[24] The H3 Podcast announced on Twitter once the episode had been published "New episode with a heavy heart as it is our last."[25] The pair feuded on Twitter before ultimately both deleting tweets[22] they had made about each other, with Paytas adding "I don’t want enemies. I’ve tried really hard to make amends with people I’ve been in “drama” with. I don’t want it."[26] Paytas said in a video statement that she was grateful for the experience, but was ultimately firm in her decision to "step away" from the show.[22] Klein echoed this sentiment with a video response[27] and several Twitter statements, adding that he "[knew] how much it meant to everyone" and "did everything [he] humanly could to save it."[28]
Legacy and follow up shows
[edit]In July 2021, Frenemies merchandise was released in collaboration with Klein's clothing company Teddy Fresh.[29][30] These items were already in production prior to the ending of the podcast. During this time, Klein and Paytas also recorded a final episode of the podcast however, the episode never aired.[31]
After the ending of the show, Klein started a new podcast, entitled Families, as a temporary replacement to the Frenemies podcast.[32] The podcast featured him and his mother Donna Klein, and retained similar branding and the same set as the Frenemies podcast.[33] The Families podcast ended after 10 episodes, with one additional reunion episode taking place as a "holiday special".[34] Following the conclusion of Families, Klein launched a new podcast titled “Leftovers” with political commentator Hasan Piker.[32] In June 2022, Klein released a video entitled Frenemies Is Back & Short Lived featuring himself and musician Oliver Tree hosting an episode of the show on the Frenemies set.[35][36]
Episodes
[edit]Episode No. | Title | Air Date |
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1 | Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother | September 15, 2020 |
2 | Trisha's Obsession With Jewish People | September 22, 2020 |
3 | Possibly Our Last Episode | September 29, 2020 |
4 | Is Trisha Smarter Than A 5th Grader? | October 6, 2020 |
5 | Trisha & Ethan Have a Huge Fight & She Storms Out | October 13, 2020 |
6 | Trisha & Ethan Reconcile...Kind of | October 20, 2020 |
7 | Couples Therapy With Dr. Drew | October 27, 2020 |
8 | Trisha & Ethan Fight About The Election | November 3, 2020 |
9 | Cheese Mukbang Disaster | November 17, 2020 |
10 | Trisha vs Charli & Dixie D'Amelio (Dramageddon 2.0) | November 24, 2020 |
11 | Trisha & Ethan Do Goat Yoga & Carpool Karaoke | December 1, 2020 |
12 | Trisha Was Kidnapped At Gunpoint | December 8, 2020 |
13 | Trisha Quits the Podcast & Storms Out | December 10, 2020 |
14 | The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. Drew | December 16, 2020 |
15 | We Made The Only Honest Award Show - Introducing The Steamies | January 5, 2021 |
16 | Frenemies Is Under Attack | January 12, 2021 |
17 | Trisha Was Bullied & It's Not OK | January 19, 2021 |
18 | Pop Culture Trivia War & Friendship With Shane Is Over | January 26, 2021 |
19 | The David Dobrik & Jason Nash Episode | February 2, 2021 |
20 | Newlywed Game (Trish & Moses vs Ethan & Hila) | February 9, 2021 |
21 | Erased David Dobrik Footage Proves Trisha Was Right All Along | February 16, 2021 |
22 | Ethan & Trisha Do An Athletics Competition | February 23, 2021 |
23 | David Dobrik & James Charles Drama Apocalypse | March 2, 2021 |
24 | Jewish Trivia Contest, David Dobrik & Scotty Sire | March 9, 2021 |
25 | David Dobrik’s Lawyers Go After Trisha & Cooking Competition | March 16, 2021 |
26 | Responding To Jeff Wittek & New David Dobrik Footage | March 21, 2021 (Episode aired live) |
27 | Jeff Wittek Interview Fallout | March 23, 2021 |
28 | Responding To David's Apology | March 23, 2021 (Episode aired live) |
29 | Trisha's Epic Passover Dinner At Ethan's | March 30, 2021 |
30 | Trisha & Ethan Do Oddly Satisfying Trends | April 6, 2021 |
31 | Khloe Kardashian Photo Drama & Pizza Eating Contest | April 13, 2021 |
32 | James Charles Entire Channel Demonetized by YouTube | April 20, 2021 |
33 | Jeff Wittek, David Dobrik, & TRIVIA! | April 27, 2021 |
34 | Trisha's Birthday Celebration | May 4, 2021 |
35 | Ethan Embarrassed Himself In Front Of Trisha's Family | May 11, 2021 |
36 | Trisha & Ethan Got Bullied & Are Fighting Back | May 18, 2021 |
37 | Taking Trisha To Meme School | May 25, 2021 |
38 | PREGNANCY ANNOUNCEMENT! | June 1, 2021 |
39 | Talking About Gabbie Hanna | June 8, 2021 |
40 | Frenemies Is Back & Short Lived | June 17, 2022 |
References
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- ^ a b "'Frenemies' Is The Most Unexpectedly Cathartic Podcast on the Internet". Junkee. 2021-04-13. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
- ^ Hampton, Rachelle; Kircher, Madison Malone (2021-06-12). "The Inexplicable Saga of Internet Provocateur Trisha Paytas, Explained". Slate. ISSN 1091-2339. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
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- ^ "Trisha Paytas steps down from 'Frenemies' podcast after tense dispute on the show". Mashable. 2021-06-08. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
- ^ Colombo, Lindsay Dodgson, Palmer Haasch, Charlotte. "A timeline of Trisha Paytas' turbulent history with H3H3's Ethan Klein, from body-shaming to Paytas quitting 'Frenemies'". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
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- ^ "Trisha Paytas calls H3H3 a "disgusting piece of shit" because of video 'exposing' her photoshop". Dexerto. 9 May 2019. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
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- ^ "Ethan Klein blamed Trisha Paytas' fans for accusations that Teddy Fresh is a 'toxic' work environment". Business Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
- ^ "H3 Podcast: Frenemies #1 - Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
- ^ Dodgson, Lindsay (January 8, 2021). "Frenemies podcast: H3H3, Trisha Paytas create mental health discussion". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
- ^ Mendez II, Moises. "David Dobrik said he injured his childhood friend in a 2016 video resurfaced after Jeff Wittek's accident". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
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- ^ "H3 Podcast: The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. Drew - Frenemies #14 on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
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- ^ Song, Sandra (June 9, 2021). "Trisha Paytas Quits 'Frenemies' Podcast". PAPER Magazine.
- ^ Tenbarge, Kat. "Trisha Paytas denied being antisemitic after calling Ethan Klein 'Jewy' while the podcast co-hosts discussed money". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
- ^ @theh3podcast (2021-06-09). "New episode with a heavy heart as it is our last" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2023-10-04. Retrieved 2023-10-04 – via Twitter.
- ^ @trishapaytas (2021-06-09). "Deleted all my tweets from last night. I shouldn't have shown private conversations. I apologize. I apologize for everything. This got blown out of proportion. I don't want enemies. I've tried really hard to make amends with people I've been in "drama" with. I don't want it" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2023-10-04. Retrieved 2023-10-04 – via Twitter.
- ^ Cost, Ben (2021-06-09). "Trisha Paytas quits 'Frenemies' podcast amid feud with frenemy". New York Post. Retrieved 2023-06-05.
- ^ @h3h3productions (2021-06-09). "i am honestly gutted over this whole thing, trisha's video this morning was a total surprise to me. I dont really know what more I can say or do. Im very sorry to all the fans of frenemies, I know how much it meant to everyone, I did everything I humanly could to save it" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2023-10-04 – via Twitter.
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- ^ "H3H3 reveal why they ended 'Families' podcast after Frenemies drama". Dexerto. 27 August 2021. Retrieved 2023-06-02.
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