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  • Comment: See talk page for WP:THREE request. S0091 (talk) 18:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: The "see also" section is for other connected Wikipedia articles NOT external links Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: OBE is NOT required in the title. Theroadislong (talk) 18:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Please find more good sources which are independent, deal with the subject in depth, and show notability. These sources should focus primarily on the subject. Lewisguile (talk) 12:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: What is needed to establish notability is significant coverage in fully independent reliable sources. Passing mentions, acknowledgements, or things he has written himself do not contribute to notability. Netherzone (talk) 03:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: No changes since last decline Cambalachero (talk) 04:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: While the concerns about citation overkill have been partially addressed, multiple statements are unreferenced, no new references have been added, and the concerns about the article's subject not meeting Wikipedia's general notability criteria remain. Please take the time to thoroughly consider the existing feedback before resubmitting this draft. Adam Black talk • contribs 02:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Per previous comments. See WP:CITEKILL. Generally only one source is needed to support a fact and of the sources I reviewed many are listings/brief mentions, written by him or otherwise primary sources which cannot be used to establish notability. Also see WP:SCHOLARSHIP about using theses. If resubmitted, please provide three sources that meet all four criteria: reliable, secondary, independent and provides in-depth coverage about Farmer (not what he has said or written). S0091 (talk) 16:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: A large number of these references are just listings or passing mentions, we need sources that cover him in-depth, there may be some here, but they are buried under a mountain of irrelevant unhelpful mentions. Theroadislong (talk) 18:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: See WP:CITEKILL specifically the WP:REFBOMB section. One of the claims has 16 citations after it, while another has 8. Adding so many citations to a claim does not help to establish notability. Netherzone (talk) 18:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: The long bullet list Career section should be trimmed of non-essential (trivial) details, and focus only on the most important aspects written in prose form. Excessive details about his cremation is unnecessary, just indicate the date and place of death. Netherzone (talk) 14:27, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer, OBE (8 May 1905 - 20 January 1985) was an English probation officer. He was chair of the National Association of Probation Officers (NAPO) and was Inner London Probation Service's third and longest serving principal probation officer.[1][2]

Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer
OBE
Born(1905-05-08)8 May 1905
East Molesey, Surrey, England
Died20 January 1985(1985-01-20) (aged 79)
Beckenham, Kent, England
NationalityBritish
EducationRye Grammar School (1916-1919) and King Edward's School, Birmingham, England (1919 – 1921)
SpouseEdith Anona Jane Quinton (1905–1995)

Early life

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Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer was born in East Molesey, Surrey to journalist Charles Abraham Farmer and Annie Emma Farmer (née Johns).

He was awarded a scholarship to Rye Grammar School in 1916[3] and subsequently attended King Edward's School, Birmingham from 1919 to 1921.

He married Edith Anona Jane Quinton on 2 August 1930 at St Barnabas Church, Eltham, Kent. Their only child, Mary Farmer was born on 6 August 1940 in Newbury, Berkshire, and became a textile and tapestry artist.

Career

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In 1930 Farmer left the London Office of the Boy Scouts Association with his leaving letter personally signed by Admiral Edward Mongomery Phillpotts CB, Vice-Admiral HLP Heard and GWG May.

Farmer's first formal role in probation was as Police Court Missionary / Probation Officer at Thames Court, London, England (1937–1938). Once probation started to become a professional secularised service he took up the role of Probation Officer in Berkshire, England (1939–1943) being promoted to the role of Principal Probation Officer for Berkshire Probation Service (1943–1948).[4] It was here his national and international influence and achievements began, including authoring papers reflecting Probation and Juvenile Delinquency in the USA.[5]

He served as chair of NAPO from 1946 to 1949[6] influencing the development of the National Probation Service[7] and using the Chairman's Address to Conference in May 1949.[8] His words continue to be relevant some 70 years later in academic texts in the field of probation. The death of penal welfare and the Christian nation: The secularisation of attitudes towards delinquency, citizenship, and morality in Britain, c. 1930-80.[9]

In 1948 Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer took up the role of Principal Probation Officer for Inner London Probation Service,[10] a post he held until his retirement in 1970.[11][12] Parliamentary Reports on invitation by Ministry in Brussels start to cement the international reach of his influence.[13] Lecturing around the world as an authoritative speaker in multiple languages, together with extensive experience across a range of subjects made him influential around the world.[14]

International influence continued with the United Nations European Exchange Plan Seminar on the Institutional Treatment of Juvenile Offenders in Vienna, 1954.[15] Following inaccurate portrayals of probation in some television programmes he became a special advisor to ATV in 1959 for related programming, in particular, Probation Officer (TV series)[16]

Farmer was awarded the Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 1961 New Year Honours[17] list.

He achieved an international reputation on the treatment of offenders, including juveniles[18] and drug and alcohol dependence across several decades and led the administration of a large service.[19][20] He was invited to address United Nations gatherings in Japan and France, the latter he presented in French[21][22][23] and appointed Vice President for the Proceedings of an International Symposium on the Drunkenness Offence.[24][25]

Farmer received several Royal invitations, including for lunch with Queen Elizabeth II[26] and later in 1962 with Princess Margaret and Earl of Snowdon.

Legacy

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Farmer died on 20 January 1985[27] in Beckenham, Kent. His obituary in The Times gave a small flavour of his contribution to probation worldwide.[28] The memorial in Wandsworth Cemetery was sited in 2014, close to the area he was born and spent his early years.

A major article on Farmer, A Slice of Probation History: The story of Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer featured in the ARCOIP: The Association of Retired Chief Officers and Inspectors of Probation Newsletter in April 2024.[29]


References

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  1. ^ Probation Centenary 2007 - A snap shot of the history of the probation service. National Probation Service. 2007.
  2. ^ May, C; Lord, S (2001). Recollections of Probation in Inner London. London: Inner London Probation Service.
  3. ^ "GUESTLING Award of Scholarship" – via British Newspaper Archive.
  4. ^ Farmer, S. C. F. (January 30, 1943). "Mr S. C. F. Farmer who is the new Principal Probation Officer for Berkshire". Reading Mercury, Oxford Gazette, Newbury Herald and Berks County Paper. p. 3.
  5. ^ Farmer, S.C.F. (1945). "Probation and Juvenile Delinquency in the U.S.a". Probation. 4 (11): 119–121. doi:10.1177/026455054500401101. S2CID 143934673.
  6. ^ "National Association of Probation Officers 35th Annual Report, 1946". Probation Journal. 5–9. May 1947.
  7. ^ Social Biology and Welfare. G. Allen & Unwin. 1949. ISBN 978-0-598-56500-6.
  8. ^ Farmer, S.C.F. (1949). "Chairman's Address to Conference". Probation. 5 (21): 275. doi:10.1177/026455054900502104. S2CID 145478034.
  9. ^ Niklasson, Magnus Bo (September 2016). The death of penal welfare and the Christian nation: The secularisation of attitudes towards delinquency, citizenship, and morality in Britain, c. 1930-80 (PDF). University of York. p. 141. Retrieved 12 February 2024.
  10. ^ Volunteers in Prison After-Care: The Report of the Teamwork Associates Pilot Project. Routledge. 7 November 2021. ISBN 978-1-000-43868-0.
  11. ^ Page, Martin (1992). Crimefighters of London: a history of the origins and development of the London Probation Service, 1876 - 1965. London: Inner London Probation Service. ISBN 0951671103.
  12. ^ Statham, Roger (24 September 2014). The Golden Age of Probation: Mission V Market. Waterside Press.
  13. ^ Sessional Papers. H.M. Stationery Office. 1966.
  14. ^ Farmer, S C F (July 1965). "LE SYSTEME DE PROBATION AU ROYAUME-UNI" (PDF). Quarante Cinquième Annèe. 10: 1041–1072. Retrieved 23 July 2024.
  15. ^ European Exchange Plan Seminar on the Institutional Treatment of Juvenile Offenders, Vienna, 27 September to 9 October 1954. 1955.
  16. ^ "TV Probation Officer Vetted". Newspapers.com. The Guardian Journal. 3 December 1959. p. 10. Retrieved 20 November 2024.
  17. ^ "Supplement to the London Gazette" (PDF). The Gazette. 31 December 1960. Retrieved 26 February 2024.
  18. ^ International Bibliography on Crime and Delinquency. The Center. 1965.
  19. ^ Federal Probation. Administrative Office of the United States Courts. 1962.
  20. ^ Liste trimestrielle d'articles sélectionnés. 1965.
  21. ^ The 20-year History of UNAFEI: Regional Cooperation in Social Defence. Asia and Far East Institute for the Prevention of Crime and the Treatment of Offenders. 1982.
  22. ^ Annales internationales de criminologie. Société internationale de criminologie. 1968.
  23. ^ Le Service social. 1960.
  24. ^ The Drunkenness Offence: Proceedings of an International Symposium. Pergamon Press. 1969. ISBN 978-0-08-006420-8.
  25. ^ Cook, Timothy; Gath, Dennis; Hensman, Celia (1969). Proceedings of an International Symposium on the Drunkenness Offence held from 15 to 17 May 1968 at the Institute of Psychiatry, Maudsley Hospital, London S.E. 5, under the auspices of Camberwell Council on Alcoholism and International Council on Alcohol and Addictions. Pergamon Press. ISBN 978-0-08-006420-8.
  26. ^ Audrey Whiting (12 May 1965). "The Queen's Table". Daily Mirror. Daily Mirror. p. 9. Retrieved 14 February 2024.
  27. ^ "Seldon Charles Forrester FARMER (1905-1985) -..." www.findagrave.com.
  28. ^ Shervington, Peter (11 February 1985). "Seldon Farmer Obituary, 1985, UK, English". The Times. Retrieved 19 December 2024.
  29. ^ Harding, John; Page, Martin; Whiting, Adrian; Cannings, Jim (April 2024). "A Slice of Probation History: The story of Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer". ARCOIP: The Association of Retired Chief Officers and Inspectors of Probation Newsletter: 9–16.
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