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Exploring the Paranormal Mysteries of Portal Fernández Concha

Greetings, fellow enthusiasts of the unexplained and the mysterious,

I'm delving into the fascinating history of Portal Fernández Concha, a building that stands as a testament to Santiago's rich cultural and paranormal tapestry. This location is not only an architectural marvel but also a hotbed for paranormal activity, making it a perfect subject for our community's expertise.

Why Portal Fernández Concha?

1. Variety of Paranormal Phenomena: The building is rife with reports of unexplained noises, such as marbles rolling in the dead of night, and sightings of apparitions, including the eerie "Hat Man" and the spirits of those who met tragic ends within its walls​​.
2. Historical and Cultural Significance: Beyond its paranormal aspects, Portal Fernández Concha is a microcosm of Santiago's societal evolution, housing a diverse array of residents from different walks of life and historical periods​

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• Community Interest: The building is a focal point for local legend and has been included in paranormal tours, indicating a high level of public interest and engagement with its mysteries​

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Collaboration Invitation

I invite you to join me in expanding and refining the Wikipedia article on Portal Fernández Concha, with a focus on its paranormal aspects. Your insights, research skills, and passion for the paranormal can help us create a comprehensive, balanced, and captivating narrative.

How You Can Help:

• Research and Verification: Help in gathering and verifying accounts of paranormal activity, ensuring we rely on credible sources and eyewitness accounts.
• Contextual Analysis: Provide analysis on how these paranormal phenomena fit within the broader context of Santiago's cultural and historical landscape.
• Article Enhancement: Contribute to improving the article's structure and content, ensuring it meets Wikipedia's quality standards while captivating readers' imaginations.

This is more than just an article improvement project; it's a chance to explore the intersection of history, culture, and the paranormal in one of Santiago's most enigmatic buildings. I look forward to your contributions and insights as we delve into the mysteries of Portal Fernández Concha together.

Thank you for considering this collaboration. I'm excited to see where our combined efforts will lead us in uncovering the stories hidden within the walls of Portal Fernández Concha.

Best regards, TraceySear840 (talk) 18:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Richard C. Doty

Howdy! I've been editing Wikipedia for a few years, but most of editing activities have focused on WP:AVIATION. I've recently started perusing some UFO literature, and I've noticed that Richard C. Doty comes up repeatedly in a variety of sources, but he does not have a WP:BLP article. (The bluelinked article is a placeholder redirect I created after a recent RfD discussion revealed that there is a Richard L. Doty article on Wikipedia and consensus emerged to redirect Richard Doty there. End of sidetrack.)

I'm thinking about creating an article but my major concern is sourcing, particularly given that Doty seems to have acquired an unsavory reputation in the UFO community, mostly relating to Paul Bennewitz. As this is a BLP article, I'm cautious of giving WP:UNDUE weight to WP:FRINGE views, or using information that has been debunked since its publication, which seems to happen frequently in ufology. To this end, I'd welcome any input on the following potential sources, in no particular order:

• Project Beta: The Story of Paul Bennewitz, National Security, and the Creation of a Modern UFO Myth by Greg Bishop. Seems to be the most in-depth source of info directly relating to Paul Bennewitz, and it's published by a reputable company. My main concern is whether it's up-to-date and whether its content is disputed.
• UFO Highway 2.0: Revisiting the Hidden Expanse by Anthony F. Sanchez. Possible red flag: clearly self-published; Strange Lights Publishing seems to exist primarily as a vehicle for Sanchez's work, and openly describes itself as such on its website. (At least it's forthright.)
• The Trickster and the Paranormal by George P. Hansen. Possible red flag: published by Xlibris USA, reputed to be a self-publishing service with minimal editorial oversight. Furthermore, excerpts on Google Books seem to use lots of weasel words, although they are extensively footnoted.
• Mirage Men: A Journey into Disinformation, Paranoia and UFOs by Mark Pilkington. The documentary based on this book alerted me to the topic. Author seems legitimate, book published by a major, well-reputed house. Main concern is whether the information is up-to-date.
• The Unidentified: Mythical Monsters, Alien Encounters, and Our Obsession with the Unexplained by Colin Dickey. Author seems legitimate, book published by a major, well-reputed house.
• UFOs and the Deep State: A History of the Military and Shadow Government's War Against the Truth by Kevin D. Randle. Prolific author, reputable publisher, but some of his claims are disputed, particularly with regard to Roswell.
• The UFO Book: Encyclopedia of the Extraterrestrial by Jerome Clark. Seems well-researched and reasonably objective (I have it in front of me) and the publisher is reputable, but it's also over 25 years old, so I'm concerned it's not up-to-date.

I'm aware that Doty himself is co-author of Exempt from Disclosure and that he's discussed in Alien Harvest by Linda Moulton Howe, but the first is clearly a WP:PRIMARY source and the second seems to be one as well, so I'm cautious of relying on them for anything remotely controversial.

Feel free to suggest additional sources or anything else that might be helpful. Additionally, as I'm new to this field, please let me know if there's a better place to post these questions. Thanks, Carguychris (talk) 20:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Great project. I don't know if we can have a standalone BLP, but we certainly find SOMEWHERE to cover all the notable content about Doty, who is pivotal figure to 20th century UFO folklore.

The biggest roadblock is finding documentations about who "the real Doty is". Lots of books cover his notable UFO claims, but it'd be really important to pin down every autobiographical claim as well, rather than naively repeating a seemingly-innocuous claim.

For example, do we really even know if he was in the Air Force?

In terms of books, Project Beta and Mirage Men are both very high-quality sources as to the role he had played in cattle mutilation and UFO folklore, the stuff that we really should cover somewhere. Randle is fringe, but often notable fringe. Feoffer (talk) 21:14, 4 December 2024 (UTC)