User talk:KANLen09
the recent edit to Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun
[edit]I asked WT:ANIME about the change to romaji. To this edit, as you didn't tell what was the reason why it was changed back. The link is to here. Unblue box (talk) 17:36, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Please, stop adding links to sections within the article in the infobox. The MOS is quite clear about this and I have been warning you about this for a long time in the edit summaries. Xexerss (talk) 11:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- @KANLen09: You have been warned several times about this and you keep doing it. Stop with that provocative and non-cooperative attitude or you will be reported at WP:ANI. Xexerss (talk) 18:58, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just feel like I need to clarify something: does it ever matter if say, the Japanese and English translations of the same article, need to be replicated down to the wire, or just focus on the information based on the source citings? KANLen09 (talk) 03:00, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- You mean if an article in the English Wikipedia should have the same content as the Japanese Wikipedia article? Consider that standards and guidelines may vary from one language edition to another, and although we have Template:Expand Japanese, it explicitly states: "Do not translate text that appears unreliable or low-quality. If possible, verify the text with references provided in the foreign-language article." Apart from very specific content, such as plot, character descriptions, and such (see WP:PLOTSOURCE), it is fundamental to provide references to verify the content, and thus avoid WP:OR. In short, what should be prioritized are references and verifiability (verifiability, not truth), and not replicate other Wikipedia editions just for replication's sake. Xexerss (talk) 04:01, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just feel like I need to clarify something: does it ever matter if say, the Japanese and English translations of the same article, need to be replicated down to the wire, or just focus on the information based on the source citings? KANLen09 (talk) 03:00, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
ANI notice
[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Xexerss (talk) 07:16, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Cast info
[edit]There is no need to change the source of staff when it is the official website of the anime, for example in this edit: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Classroom_of_the_Elite_(season_3)&diff=prev&oldid=1193393633 I don't know why you changed it, but it's always encouraged to use the official website of the anime for staff information when available; when an anime series doesn't provide that info for example Fluffy Paradise which you added "Information is taken from the ending credits of each episode.", then we use the ending credits. Because there is no other way to find that info and source it.
As for Classroom of the Elite, this is the official website that you changed. Check what is written after the synopsis of the episode: http://you-zitsu.com/story.html Parham.es (talk) 16:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to say that not every anime need to take its staff info from the ending creadit, As a matter of fact it's better to use the anime's official website if it gives the information. Parham.es (talk) 17:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ah yes, because I saw that there were like shows with multiple different formats, so I got confused whether should we stick to one that's already available or the edit that I made (which was just the general one).
- Episodes will normally have their synopsis written for them, plus the staff involved as well, so I'm well aware of that, and usually will just stick to the former. KANLen09 (talk) 01:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
List Solo Leveling episodes
[edit]Firstly, the credits you added for episode 1 are just animation directors (作画監督), not chief ADs (総作画監督) (basically the directors above those directors). For that episode chief ADs are not credited, thus it's not applicable. Secondly, the episodes are officially listed with zeros in single digits, and since there is no MOS rule against it that's why it was added. And last but most importantly, do not break line episode staff names individually when you don't have to, as there is plenty enough table space on this template for it to remain on one single line. All this action does is inconsistently bulk up the episode boxes for no good reason. I hope this helps as to why I reverted your edit, because I felt like trying to explain all this on an undo revision summary wasn't going to be enough. GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 05:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, noted with thanks. It felt cumbersome trying to edit the already convoluted episode table, so I'll try my best not to tamper much with the original format. KANLen09 (talk) 06:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @GalaxyFighter55 one question in this same vein, just raising this for your inference.
- For series like Ishura which has all 3 positions (Writer, Storyboard, Ep director) listed on the official anime page, can it still be edited to fill these information into the episode table? KANLen09 (talk) 12:12, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- @KANLen09: If the ED, WR or SB artist is just one person by themselves on every episode (most commonly the episode writer is the series writer themselves; its a rarer case among ED or SB artists) its recommended you omit that field from the table as it'd just be spamming the same name on every single episode and wasting table space that could be better used elsewhere. In Ishura's case, Kenta Ihara (series writer) is the only episode writer, so that field is omitted for repetitiveness.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 19:14, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I get your point. No wonder I felt like "How come there is a column missing" when it's all very repetitive. You raised a good point that can help me streamline the episode tables from now on, thanks for the help. KANLen09 (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- @KANLen09: If the ED, WR or SB artist is just one person by themselves on every episode (most commonly the episode writer is the series writer themselves; its a rarer case among ED or SB artists) its recommended you omit that field from the table as it'd just be spamming the same name on every single episode and wasting table space that could be better used elsewhere. In Ishura's case, Kenta Ihara (series writer) is the only episode writer, so that field is omitted for repetitiveness.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 19:14, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- @KANLen09: Important question Kan, why do you continue to excessively align the sections up to the NativeTitleLangCode and line break (br) staff names? (the latter of which is told you not to do above)? The purpose of the section alignment is for source code editor readability only, and since all anime have NativeTitleLangCode because nearly all episodes are originally titled in Japanese to begin with, there's no need to line it up with it as its 4 full extra bytes per line. On just 2 cours worth of episodes per article this amounts to around an average of 1,300 unnecessary excess bytes. As for line breaking staff names, just don't do it. You can literally go on any non-anime episode list and that's not how its coded. If there is horizontal space available, there is absolutely no reason to do that. This example page is watchlisted by the very creator of the episode template and that's how they're supposed to be. Only line break in any situation that avoids bulking up the episode box above 2+ lines if possible.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 04:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't aware of the whole bytes thing. I just assumed that the line break will work essentially the same as how other people would've seen it. Even in most of the previous edits that I've done, the methodology is always the same, not realizing that the "insignificant" bytes do count as well to the overall structure and loading of the pages in general. Will take note of this going forward. KANLen09 (talk) 16:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Episodes section
[edit]Hello KANLen09. Some time ago we discussed this thing about MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, and I thought we had come to an understanding on this, so why are you again adding links to the Episode sections in the articles, like with this edit or this other one? Xexerss (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- So unless the episode list is redirected to another page, then this will be applicable? KANLen09 (talk) 09:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Infobox animanga
[edit]Stop capitalizing TV Series the the animanga infobox. There's a reason it is not capitalized. One edit to that infobox and it'll break it to read simply as "Anime" because of that. If you want to make edits that actually help improve the articles, follow my lead instead of using the outdated way you've been using for awhile. Also, I was the one who made the notations for the episode tables you've been using but they're an outdated formula. You don't have to put notations for English titles anymore, just add the citation next to the Japanese one. GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 03:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll re-check the entries as I go, and feel free to edit to cut down on code and data if you think is otherwise unnecessary. It's just that the episode table format I've been using it as a template for a good while now since not every anime lists it the same way. I may miss some spots here and there, and I don't want to work against you to improve my editing as well. KANLen09 (talk) 11:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for understanding, in regards with the animanga infobox just leave them (light novel, manga, tv series) all lower case as it's a coding issue that to my knowledge can't really be fixed without an overhaul. And I know this is what you have been used to, but I recently realized the English title notation was repetitive and pointless as the citations were inside them anyways. Way more simple to just put the Japanese source first and then the English source next with no note since virtually all anime will have both titles for English Wikipedia anyways.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 00:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd figured as much if the coding doesn't really make any significance to the outside viewing source. As for the title notation, because there's quite the vast difference in licensing so I feel like there's a need to note where the sources come from, at least for the English part. I don't know about you, but now that you mention it, it feels kind of unmeaningful to add a citation in the note itself since it's pretty much standard across all anime, regardless of where it came from. KANLen09 (talk) 13:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for understanding, in regards with the animanga infobox just leave them (light novel, manga, tv series) all lower case as it's a coding issue that to my knowledge can't really be fixed without an overhaul. And I know this is what you have been used to, but I recently realized the English title notation was repetitive and pointless as the citations were inside them anyways. Way more simple to just put the Japanese source first and then the English source next with no note since virtually all anime will have both titles for English Wikipedia anyways.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 00:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
MOS & WP rules
[edit]Please follow MOS:ALLCAPS & WP:NOTBROKEN when editing going forward. Under no circumstances should you be pipe linking for text stylization, as that is already something you shouldn't be doing to begin with. Thanks. GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 18:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Noted with thanks. Seems that WOWOW is the only "exception" to this rule being under WP:CAPSLOCK when it's being referred to by its official channel name. Everything else (e.g. BS NTV) is as is and I'm only following the detailing as it is shown by its text stylization, which feel free to chime in if you think that it's (un)necessary to begin with. KANLen09 (talk) 08:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Clarification
[edit]Can I ask for clarification, why do you remove the production staff and the second episode info on Tying the Knot with an Amagami Sister's episode table?
Also note that you don't need to put "scheduled" on the "last" parameter as it stated on Template:Infobox animanga/Video Leave empty if the series is ongoing or renewed.
Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Same case on I'll Become a Villainess Who Goes Down in History. It is already confirmed by source that it has 13 episodes. And why remove the Nihongo foot template? The title is super long, it needed to be a note Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK you're losing me, let me clarify everything.
- I have always done the episode tables for every new seasonal show, so all the information is just copy-paste to the best of my know-how from past shows, scouring and determined by official sources to the best of my know-how. I had worked this out with several other well-known editors who've guided me all this time, especially in cases like Tying the Knot with an Amagami Sister where I always leave production staff credits to other people to fill them in, aside from shows whose official websites already have episode credits in them where I can fill them up myself. I only edited up to Episode 1 at the time of my edit, so it definitely wasn't my working.
- As to I'll Become a Villainess Who Goes Down in History, I have no obligation in leaving the confirmed episode length source, so that was my error for omitting it. But everything else has already been set the standard (like the above show) of its format and such. Please clarify with the Nihongo foot template, because I don't understand that. The infobox "scheduled" was not my editing, aside from the dates.
- For everything else, please do not go against the format like the date on the top which should be reflected by the month instead (aired in October 2024) and the actual date of release, which has already been reflected on the Notes section (Tokyo MX and BS11 lists the series premiere on October 1, 2024 at 24:30, which is effectively October 2 at 12:30 a.m. JST.)
- Best regards. KANLen09 (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding and for clarification. Nihongo foot temp is used when the title is super long (such as As a Reincarnated Aristocrat, I'll Use My Appraisal Skill to Rise in the World.) Also I just use the twinkle undo to revert your edit as I'm lazy to just manually revert back some of my edit manually. You can add it back if you want. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 14:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh that, I get it. Yeah, sorry for the misunderstandings and such, I understand your point. Just hit me up if something doesn't feel right. KANLen09 (talk) 14:50, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding and for clarification. Nihongo foot temp is used when the title is super long (such as As a Reincarnated Aristocrat, I'll Use My Appraisal Skill to Rise in the World.) Also I just use the twinkle undo to revert your edit as I'm lazy to just manually revert back some of my edit manually. You can add it back if you want. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 14:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
@KANLen09: On the same page, you also removed the credited producers from the infobox, which I don't quite understand why you did that. I've re-added it, and I would like to ask you to not do that without a given reason, because there's nothing to work with given the description "Anime premiere." Sarca sc (talk) 21:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, which infobox does it come from so I can take note going forward? If it's the episode table, then I've already stated my point above, clear and concise (please read the notes section, it seems at this was missed almost always from the discussion) that unless I know who I'm referring to, I will not credit producers wrongly. Otherwise, I did little to no changes to the other infoboxes. KANLen09 (talk) 00:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Your edit here removed the "producers" parameter in the infobox itself, not the episode table. Sarca sc (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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