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Extended confirmed
on 25 August 2024 I asked if I can have extended confirmed access back. Can I have it back now? Most of the articles I wanna edit I can't, and I've been constructively editing for months HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I submitted a request like months ago and I never got a notification back. Can you just give it to me? Remember last time when I had extended confirmed access, there was no vandalism or edit wars or anything like that, I tried my best to edit constructive. I admit a few months ago I got impatience at times and tried to rush edits in one night and wasted people's time in talk pages by arguing about stupid things. But I changed. My discussions in talk pages have been constructive in the last few months, barely any of my edits get reverted because I believe they're good and makes the page better, and nobody had to explain the rules to me anymore, I recently read all of them. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Quick note on Template:U.S. current election editnotice
Thanks for your edits to Template:U.S. current election editnotice.
Most of the cable news channels draw their data from AP/Reuters who makes their own calls. I think CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. may still be reliable in terms of election reporting despite being poor outside of these elections. I don't think we should say anything other than "[name of source] called [name of state] for [candidate]" as attributed opinion. This kind of stuff requires multiple reliable sources, yes. I don't think hand picking arbitrary reliable sources and only using those sources to call elections is a good idea. Awesome Aasim 23:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Awesome Aasim the reason for this is that all of those five have independent desks. NBC and MSNBC make the same calls. Fox News is probably not reliable post-2020. And this is for listing states as "X won" in wikivoice, not noting that a candidate was called the winner by a particular station. For that, we can include even if there isn't a consensus between all the networks yet. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- What about foreign news sources? Like CBC or BBC or ABC Australia or DW? Don't they also make calls on election night? Awesome Aasim 23:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty sure most of those aren't independent. And again we don't need to add more here unless you think a consensus of these five would be insufficient. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I do agree there should be significant agreement among reliable sources, though. Awesome Aasim 23:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is also PBS/NPR. But they also pull data from AP. Awesome Aasim 23:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- For future reference, almost all the election calls are pulled from AP and Reuters. BBC used the Reuters count. Google, Bing and more used the AP count. If a call is made by both AP and Reuters, it almost certainly will be made by the others. Awesome Aasim 18:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm well aware of this. That's why I didn't include Google, Bing, etc. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would oppose to including Google and Bing as well. Reuters and AP are the only two sources that these networks are basing their calls from. Awesome Aasim 19:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm well aware of this. That's why I didn't include Google, Bing, etc. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- For future reference, almost all the election calls are pulled from AP and Reuters. BBC used the Reuters count. Google, Bing and more used the AP count. If a call is made by both AP and Reuters, it almost certainly will be made by the others. Awesome Aasim 18:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- What about foreign news sources? Like CBC or BBC or ABC Australia or DW? Don't they also make calls on election night? Awesome Aasim 23:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Iminthethickofit (09:55, 6 November 2024)
Hi I'm Iminthethickofit (Inspired by the banger 'Thick of It' by KSI, not sure if you know what it is). How are you doing, hope you're well. My question today is why are some topics that have 'View Source' instead of the option to edit? I have heard that I think it has that because it is trying to protect the topic but just asking for comfirmation. Personal question (optional): Do you like 'Thick of It' by KSI, if you are an NPC you probably don't know it but becuase I assume you are human I'm sure you know what it is. What do you think of it? Kind regards, Iminthethickofit --Iminthethickofit (talk) 09:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Iminthethickofit (talk page stalker) When you see 'view source' instead of 'edit source', its because you cannot edit that page due to protection. Pages can be protected due to vandalism, edit war, disputes and a few other reasons . Thick of It (KSI song) is semi-protected, meaning you need at least 10 edits and 4 days. This comment is your only edit so far in Wikipedia and you only created this account on the 6th. Because the bar of semi-protection is low, you should consider editing elsewhere until you can edit semi-protected articles. And no, both me and your mentor Elli are humans, not NPCs. JuniperChill (talk) 11:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from TuuliMadero (10:51, 8 November 2024)
Hello,
We would like to create a Wikipedia page about our company.
Is this possible? If possible, could you help us?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=tuuli+gmbh
Thanks --TuuliMadero (talk) 10:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @TuuliMadero hi and thanks for reaching out. You should generally not write about your company yourself, because you have a conflict of interest. You can request an article, though it is unlikely one will be created unless you have multiple reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage of your company. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Shelter and support on User:Shelter and support/sandbox (06:55, 11 November 2024)
how do i save my work --Shelter and support (talk) 06:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Shelter and support the "Publish page" button should do it. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Already took it :) thanks for the reminder. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Requesting to be able to get all of the material of my deleted pages
Hey man, you nominated to delete several of my alt-hist pages several months ago and I never backed them up. I understand that hosting them on the wiki was against TOS but I was hoping that I could get the source for them so that I can save them elsewhere.
Thanks and regards. Heatyeet (talk) 02:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Heatyeet sure thing. I'll email them to you. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Appreciate it Heatyeet (talk) 02:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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- @D4n2016 thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 17:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:
- Liviu Holender chose lieder by five composers whose music was banned by the Nazis—Schreker, Zemlinsky, Mahler, Korngold and Schönberg—for a recital at the Oper Frankfurt.
What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt hi and thanks for your appreciation. Totally understand not wanting to focus on admin- and ArbCom-related areas, they can be exhausting. I don't really know the context necessary to answer your question, though. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- The context is that infoboxes have been regarded as a contentious topic, and I doubt that they still are. Feel free to look at the 5 composers to evaluate. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Rizkydinamo on Real net output ratio (05:56, 26 November 2024)
halo, bagaimana untuk membuat artikel berdasarkan tentang bengkel dinamo --Rizkydinamo (talk) 05:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Jamiemathieson5 (09:18, 26 November 2024)
Hi how do I make myself a Wikipedia page? I want to get verified on TikTok as I have a blue tick on all my social media but they need reputable news article links and Wikipedia is a big one. Thanks --Jamiemathieson5 (talk) 09:18, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Jamie Mathieson: Please read and heed the deletion notice I left on your talk page as well as all of the other messages there. Having a "blue tick does not indicate meeting WP:ANYBIO. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
large block
Not really a concern but you realize blocking 2601:601/32 is a giant swath of comcast customers right? 2601:601:701:21CD:4845:D63B:322B:75AE (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. It's just from a few pages, though, and there isn't really an easier/less-restrictive way to prevent this disruption. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from AJRossetto9953 (00:20, 27 November 2024)
Hi there! Do you know why primary sources are not allowed on here? its always confused me, as i always thought primary sources were better then secondary. Thank you! --AJRossetto9953 (talk) 00:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AJRossetto9953 happy to explain. Primary sources aren't disallowed, but they only provide an in-the-moment perspective. Wikipedia endeavors not to do analysis of things ourselves, as that is original research, but simply listing facts without analysis isn't very useful to our readers. So it's best to have secondary sources we can draw on for analysis, instead of citing primary sources.
- This is different from, say, school projects, which would often want you to do your own analysis of sources to draw your own conclusions! It's an important skill to have; it's just not what we do here. Hope that clears things up :) Elli (talk | contribs) 15:44, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, you're going to get that from time to time. It is the IP address range used by mobile customers of Jio. The couple of people (2 in the past year) saying "It wasn't me!" is going to be far outweighed by the number of random edits like Special:Diff/1106760683 and Special:Diff/1105621375 and Special:Diff/1074495251 abd Special:Diff/1070284648 that are going to start right back up again when the block expires in 2025. It is an unfortunate situation, but the numbers are orders of magnitude against us. We do not have the resources to combat even the small percentage of people who do not understand the basic fact that they are editing Wikipedia with their mobile 'phones, and apparently are regarding the "talk" and "edit" hyperlinks on articles as some kind of chat or search app. Uncle G (talk) 08:04, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
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