User talk:Crzrussian/Archive 25

OK TO THE DELETION

What's new?

... oh, hitting "reload" on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Crzrussian 2 to see if somebody accepted yet, before which I'm apparently not supposed to comment. :-) Also watching Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano with bated breath - the principles and findings of fact are easy, but what can the arbcom actually going to do about it?

Real editing that I really should be doing instead: La Merika (slippery slope from AfD), Jenna Jameson (one of the rare WP:P* that could actually get to WP:FA with more work), more grammar tweaks on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Buffy the Vampire Slayer which I stumbled on when researching how FA really works, Wikipedia:Danny's contest which seems interesting (Pyramid and Tower seem Wikipedia: Vital articles ripe for major expansion)...

And you? AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 18:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, don't knock Jenna. :-). That's a regularly vandalized article, and my work doesn't even show up on the first few pages of edit history, but it's there - look at the references: New York Times, Forbes, CNN, Rolling Stone... that's solid stuff. However I somehow haven't gotten around to it for over a month. I think what someone wrote somewhere is true, that it's harder to work on large articles than small ones, possibly because of the small editing window. Or maybe I'm just lazy. :-) AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I notice most of your few RFA "oppose"s are about your occasional loss of temper and combativeness. Do you think losing your temper and combating them more is a good idea? :-) AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 15:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment about Whitstone school

Regarding [1] I presume that you had a much more meaningful Yom Kippur than I did...JoshuaZ 23:51, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hahaha! - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Admin.sxc

I made the thing in Open Office, so not surprisingly MS Office won't accept it. I had prepared a bit on User:Blnguyen/Stats/del when it was made, but I didn't have the deletes/day ratio there. Kimchi.sg was one of the biggest, he has done 20k+ in three months. In the office spreadsheet, I also had a "delete rate: net support vote" ratio, to see which admins were the most undervvalued and which were most overrated. "Net support = support -3*oppose". I think Jaranda was close to being the most undervalued, as he did heaps of deletes and barely passes, whilst Kukini and Natalya were at the other far end of the scale. I'll convert it soon hopefully. Regards, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gorbushka (AfD discussion)

Moved to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gorbushka

—Quarl ^(talk) 2006-10-04 16:59Z

Re Père Lachaise Cemetery

I am pretty sure this is not vandalism. - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Are you sure you are reporting the right edit? In this edit, 201.141.48.163 inserts his/her signature right in the middle of the article. Wasn't that supposed to be reverted?--Hús ö nd 22:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh now I see, there was some further content that I didn't notice. I'll restore that part. Thanks for noticing.--Hús ö nd 22:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New RfA

Hi. per your RfA#2, you'll see I'm a "strong support"er. I fervently believe that you were (and will be) a great admin. To offer just a little constructive criticism, though, you might want to be a little less terse. This accounts for (i think) a majority of the oppose !votes on the RfA. I was also slightly miffed by this. Again, this is just a small suggestion from a person that believes in your re-sysoping. Cheers! Storkk 02:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note: "miffed" only by its sheer terseness, not the actual content. --Storkk 02:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ask the 6?

How do you feel about asking the 6 users who asked for recall to comment? Frankly, I thought they would be among the first to say something, but so far, only one has weighed in. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 17:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rencin24

Hi Crzrussian, Well I got to know that I deleted something. Though I did not get it clearly what it is,I am really sorry for that. I would love to do something good. Maybe that's why I do so many wrong things. Please forgive me as an elder brother or sister. I would love to hear from you. Thanks.rencin24 11:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Dweller is an interfering old ratbag

Hope you didn't mind me wading in. Figured you had enough on your plate. Thanks for removing the warning from the newbie talk page. --Dweller 14:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. Dweller is thanked. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Not quite yet on Eddie's Bar...but almost. I usually select articles with >1500 characters (though WP:DYK says 1000 is the minimum) that have a reference (preferably in-line) to at least the fact mentioned on the main page (and usually in-line references to many of the stated facts). After your RfA is over, you should try your hand at updating -- it's quite fun (although a bit tedious). I'm on a bit of a DYK hiatus myself as I got a little angered by some punk kid admin who tried to strongarm his way on DYK -- Samir धर्म 02:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

If you have been at wikipedia for some time, expect some resistance with a RfA. I have my motivation to object seriously against you being an admin. I voice that. That is my right. Your first response is Vote smells like serious politics. Excuse me? What do you expect from such a remark? Then you just continue from there by questioning my motives, ect etc etc. Effectively, you have been confirming my objections post after post since then. You yourself state in another response that you respond forcefully, and that you do not see a problem with it, however, at the same time, you have a problem with it when other people respond forcefully. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 04:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pastor Don M Spiers

Hey Crzrussian Rencin here. This Page is put for deletion help me??? Pastor Don M Spiers. Thanks.rencin24 07:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

D. Vinayachandran

Provided Links to news paper reports. thanks . Nileena joseph 08:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't win :)

I guess I shouldn't expect to, being in the process of taking two college prep (and hopefully college credit) pre-law classes, while I hear ^{(a little birdie told me)} you've got your post-grad degree. :P I'm only half Estonian anyway.

I must say that I wasn't precisely anticipating that you were Jewish... that would have made my "ethnicity" argument a bit stronger.

Good luck with the RFA; I'm rooting for you! :)

Srose (talk) 10:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolut

Being a photograph of a 3d scene, the composition is an original work. As the logos are merely part of the scene and not the subject of the photo I would say it's okay. ed g2s • talk 13:37, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfA

Curse you for pushing me and Blnguyen down the WP:100 list. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 02:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

After Eid, shall we go for Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Joturner 3? - CrazyRussian talk/email 03:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'd be up for it (although perhaps Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu 2 would be a better location). Yanksox and Aguerriero both offered to nominate me back in August, but I said I'd hold off. And Kingboyk said he'd nominate me if I ask him in November. So, I think that meets the two-admin threshold I mentioned on User:Tariqabjotu/Rationale. -- tariqabjotu 03:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Argo Tea

A few months ago you, Yanksox, and I kind of agreed to give the above article some leeway and check back on its status. I just wanted to see what you thought. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 18:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind noting that on the talk page so that the main editor might see it. Cheers and good luck on the RfA. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 19:11, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA/Yomangani

Whoops, I've updated my standards. —Malber (talk • contribs) 19:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA, etc.

The Yankees kept Torre, so you'll not have to transfer your allegiance to the Devil Rays (who, IIRC, may in 2008 be styled as the Rays); of course, in a few years, Tampa Bay may displace the Yankees atop the division, so perhaps you'll have to hop on their bandwagon (although they've really disappointed me by getting rid of some prime talent this year). In any event, I thought I should drop you a note to let you know that I voted (RfA is not a vote, voting is evil, etc.) regretful neutral on your RfA, for reasons I set out there in great, great length. I hope that you'll not thence infer any malice—I remain a fan of yours—but I understand that you might construe my comments as less-than-amicable, at least insofar as I suggest that certain qualities the presence of which in a prospective admin is auspicious aren't as grand in you as once I thought them to be (of course, you're almost surely more greatly possessed of those qualities than I), and so it's nothing personal may ring hollow. As I conclude in my vote, though, I am relatively sure that you'll continue, as an admin, to do the fine work you previously did, and I expect also that you'll be a bit more circumspect as regards acting in areas in which from actions controversy might ensue. That sounds haughty, I suppose; who in the hell am I to pronounce as to how you ought to act? I mean only to convey, I guess, that I still think as highly of you as ever I did and that my neutral was, well, nothing personal. Joe 20:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tony K. Thurmond

I think that city councilmembers of Major Cities (Richmond has more than 100,000 people and probably closer to 130,000 since the census) are very notable. The article is new, let me expand it, give it a chance please.Qrc2006 21:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for notifying me by the way, but please create a new section on my talk page ==like this== you made it look very ugly just now and squeezed your comment between two previously existing and unrelated sections. Thanks! =)Qrc2006 21:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for giving me the time Crzrussian and also for telling me which about uncat. What exactly made you want to delete this article, I'd love to make sure it meets the criteria for inclusion.Qrc2006 21:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

stub

thanks again, a always forget the specific ones and i never remember where to find outQrc2006 22:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wow thanks again you damn crazy russian! =) youre so helpfulQrc2006 22:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pile-on

Copied from my talk page:

All I can say is that you misunderstood me, but Malber didn't, withdrawing in response. See my response to AnnH here - CrazyRussian talk/email

~~Where is the diff from where you discussed this with Malber? --FloNight 22:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)~~ Let's skip it. I struck the oppose on your RFA, though not thrilled by your response to my oppose; it was civil and I'm willing to assume good faith. I saw your Wrap up comment on your RFA talk page and feel that it is more like the response I hoped to see all along. [2] Take care, FloNight 23:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

image

Hi! and thanks for telling me about the image, im not sure how to add the tag to it, its fair use since its a promotional shot of the city council used to illustrate the city council and its members. Its also the work of a governement agency so it may lie in the public domain, i got the image from the city's website. how should i go about this?Qrc2006 22:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blood libel

Crzrussian, I am sure you deal with all kinds of abuse here. And I am sure that sometimes you get frustrated and lose your cool. But I can assure you that 'escalating the stupidity' is not a solution, by a longshot. I am not suspecting you of POV or racism - that's not my point. WP is an open book - anyone anywhere can read it. What seems like a joke to you, may not to many others reading it. There is a reason for WP:CIVIL - it is not just something your mother or teacher told you, and you can forget when you hit the street. Adhering to WP:CIVIL at all times, and especially when you are stressed and upset, will help you, will help WP, and will help diffuse or resolve the situation in a better way than by 'escalating the stupidity'. Not that I am perfect myself - far from it, I have many faults, and I am not preaching to you. I am just giving you what I think is sound advice. I know you have a good core in you, try to let that part control, even when the going gets rough. Crum375 02:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry that you still don't seem to get the point. It's not a 'rhetorical device'. It's an ugly and vicious racial slur. Now to you it may seem like a joke, but I think that's the part you really need to work on. Though you may think the other side 'gets' the joke and laughs with you, the hurt is still there, perhaps under the surface. And as I mentioned above, there is also the whole world looking in through our glass walls, and they don't all 'get' the joke. Being offensive, even as a 'joke', for whatever reason, is never a solution here. And yes, IMO anyone using this type of vile and ugly language should be banned for a long time, long enough for him/her reflect on their actions and hopefully get the point. Crum375 02:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wong Tzyy Yu

The article's been recreated -- I'm not sure what it is you want me to do. Thanks, NawlinWiki 03:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just tried to restore the history, but I'm not sure that it worked. I'm going to bed -- will look at this again in the morning. NawlinWiki 04:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

Here before the crat. On of the best admins is now returned!!! Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 04:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

too early. If they give it 48 more hours, it might just tank... :) I know, I know, don't feed the crats any ideas... lol - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joining. Also, pls don't bother thanking at my talk if you are up for this job. Happy edits. --Irpen 04:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well done. --Guinnog 04:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Co-nom congrats. happy editing. I have every confidence you are going to take the feedback you got on board. All the best. ++Lar: t/c 06:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfA

As already noted, your RfA passed and you have been reinstated as an Admin. Congratulations, and use the tools wisely. Redux 04:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Redux. To all, as noted on the RfA ab initio, there will be no talk page spamming. - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gratz Alex. Well done. – Ch acor 04:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrat's CR! Keep up the good work. All the best - JungleCat talk/contrib 04:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see you back with a mop in hand! Congrats -- Samir धर्म 04:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations. I hope you do as good a job now as you did before. Viridae ^Talk 04:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You deserved it. Mazltov! ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 05:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Piling on. 'Grats. --Dweller 07:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glad your back doing what you are suppose to be doing. :) --Andeh 12:58, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accountability

See User:Crzrussian/Accountability - CrazyRussian talk/email 05:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats!

Welcome back to the "team" (not that I was on it when you took your leave!)

Now, what she said, get to work! ;) Glen 08:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go bhfága Dia do sláinte agat

Congratulations on your re-adminship! hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 08:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

Grats on your adminship!!! Use the mop well :) -- Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 09:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Piling it on

Congrats... Shame it was closed before you hit 200 supports, though. Cheers! --Storkk 10:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are...

...wikipedia's own Richard Nixon. I guess we have you to kick around again :) mazel tov. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 12:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Grats!

I knew you'd pass. :) Hope things go more smoothly the second time around. Daveydw ee b (^chat/_patch) 13:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for verifying C:AOtR

Congratulations - and thanks! Not only for being a good admin, as everyone else wrote, above, but for proving that Category:Administrators open to recall can function. Well done. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Circ contributor is requesting information

Hello CrazyRussian, a thoughtful editor over at the circumcision article has made an interesting request here [3] I am unable to help and thought I'd pass it along to you to see if you have anything. Thanks. Dasondas 13:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for weighing in. Dasondas 23:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Jones (Waste management)

Hi Crzrussian

I note you requested my article on Peter Jones (waste management) be considered for deletion. I am working on improving the Category:Waste management in wikipedia. I am not into promotion of this man in any way but I can assure you he is of notability in the UK waste management industry. He has had television appearances, he sits on government advisory bodies and is extremely well known in the industry. A Google search reveals 55,000 links to him and I have slimed down the search results to take into account his more common name [ http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22peter+jones%22+waste&btnG=Search&meta=].--Alex 13:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have deprodded the article to give the author some more time to flesh it out. If you are still not satisfied after a while, it can be sent over to AfD. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 14:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers youngamerican I'm working on it.--Alex 14:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I merely changed the speedy deletion request into a regular deletion request. Contact User:Nehwyn - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

I congratualte and wish all the best. --Bhadani 14:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats - I won't paste my standard little congrats box here, because you've been there, done that. If I can ever be of assistance, let me know. Kudos on the Wrapping up post on your Rfa - truly graciously phrased. KillerChihuahua^?!? 14:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Congrats and welcome back, Crz. =) Nishkid64 22:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fibonacci number(s) move

I agree that Fibonacci numbers makes more sense as a title, especially since most of the links to 'Fibonacci number' are formatted to display as the plural. However, I don't think that I would ever characterize moving a page as a minor edit. Also, since there are already so many links to the old name of the page, don't you think that you should edit the links to point to the current location, to avoid having the redirect page invoked every time anyone clicks on a link? Finell (Talk) 16:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying so instantly.

If you don't know how your edit was marked as minor, it is probably because you set your Preferences to mark edits as minor as a default (which is a dangerous default, unless practically all of your edits are minor copy edits, which is unlikely). Otherwise, you must have checked the "This is a minor edit" check box that appears below every Edit box, right below the Edit summary. That check box is followed by a link to what's this? that explains its correct usage, which you may wish to look at. As an Admin, aren't you supposed to know stuff like this?

Regarding my main point, which you did not answer, are you going to clean up after yourself by fixing all the links to 'Fibonacci number'?

Finell (Talk) 16:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: What's new..

Not much. I've been spending time in RFD and doing some clean-up. I haven't gotten to Shortpages much lately, but when I have, I've been working on the bottom of the list. I have found that many dab pages are missing entries so I have been checking those on Shortpages for entries to add. Have you seen this page?

Looking at your talk page, it looks like things have been interesting for you. I guess I don't pay enough attention Wikipedia controversies as I missed your "downfall" & related events. I'm glad to see you're back. -- JLaTondre 17:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ground Glass (Photography)

Sorry - I meant G6 - the Housekeeping speedy deletion. Basically, the article was improperly disambiguated, and the new page was also improperly moved (cut and paste). It has since been reverted, so all of this page's content is back at ground glass where it originally was - thus this page is a duplicate and can be deleted. Thanks! Girolamo Savonarola 05:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfB With A Smile :)

Talk page

Crazy, I just reverted an edit to your talk page. Please review. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 13:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WET

Question -- why did you delete WET -- the Watir Extension Toolkit? Because it is a valid extension to Watir. -- SunSw0rd 18:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Watir Extension Toolkit

Looks to me like maybe another user came in and made edits that caused a perception that this is spam. However, the Watir Extension Toolkit (WET) is in fact open source software -- it is, in fact, what is known as a Ruby gem (a library.) Since it is open source, I don't think this can be considered spam. If spam is defined as: "Pages that exist only to promote a company, product, or service" -- then I would argue that WET cannot be considered to be spam. It is open source licensed, anyone can download it, and people using web application testing using the Ruby language (open source) and WATIR (Web Application Testing In Ruby) might want to use WET.

Now that other user may have been playing up "Thwameva" -- which is a company (apparently in India) that does provide paid support to corporate users. Whether their business model is valid or not is open to debate, but I don't think they are different than Red Hat in that regard (who provides Linux for free but charges for support.) In any case, I didn't create a listing on Thwameva, but on Watir Extension Toolkit -- a Ruby library -- and I think, not spam. -- SunSw0rd 18:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ok i agree to the deletion. David Betesh

Abu Musa al-Hindi

You wrote:

I dunno about the move. His passport name is clearly Dhiren Barot, under which he was prosecuted. Besides, there are so many aliases - al-hindi, al-britani, something else... Are you sure about that?

Let me check. You do have a point. --ISKapoor 21:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA

I'm not spamming everybody, but I just wanted to say thanks for your argument in my favour - it swayed at least one person, and that may have been all I needed. Cheers, Yomangani ^talk 23:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]