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@Borysk5 The new map is way more better than the previous one in details and but it shouldn't have replaced the older map. Maybe an update to the older map was a better idea Abo Yemen✉12:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Try making a new map based on the original one and the module and change its name to "map of the Yemeni civil war (2014–present).svg" or something close to that Abo Yemen✉12:59, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Restored previous stable version. Two editor have objected to the change, discuss and gain consensus on talk page for changes in the map, per WP:BRD and ONUS. Old map showed more significant details (pop centers) and appears more detailed. These changes need consensus.
I'm seeing information on the new map that is not supported in the source. Eg: New map designates an area for Al Qaeda and I do not see this supported in the text or on the map.[1],[2]. // Timothy :: talk17:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The map is highly incorrect based on the land and who controls what if you would like reach out to me so I can help you figure out what’s wrong in the map Abu yemen124 (talk) 03:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the STC is part of the internationally recognized government so the map is perfectly fine. Also, do you not see any similarities in the usernames? Abo Yemen✉07:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh yea I realized that also with the username i didn’t know what to name myself but after all is misleading the stc doesn’t have any troop presence in ataq or abyan the home governate of ex president hadi Abu yemen124 (talk) 22:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. It has not been successfully demonstrated that there is a primary topic here — Amakuru (talk) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think "Yemeni Civil War" should be capitalized. MOS:CAPS says names of wars should match reliable sources. On the first three pages of a Google Scholar search for the term, 14 of 20 results capitalize it as "Yemeni Civil War". — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)22:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The nom has offered no evidence to substantiate this but at a google scholar search for "yemeni civil war" "2014" gives 1590 hits, "yemen civil war" "2014" gives 1740 hits (total 3330)but "yemeni civil war" "1962" gives 1060 hits and "yemen civil war" "1962" 1310 hits (total 2370). There are other civil wars in Yemen disambiguated various ways per Yemeni civil war and the guidance to be considered here is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Given its ongoing nature, we need to be wary of WP:RECENTISM. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Filtering by sources since 2014, I see 861 hits for "Yemen civil war" "1962" and 1’600 for "Yemen civil war" "2014". Nowadays, the vast majority of sources about civil war in Yemen refer to the current war. I wouldn't call a 10-year trend "recentism". Toadspike[Talk]16:25, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. RobertJohnson35 and I have provided evidence above, the current civil war is clearly what the vast majority of our readers are looking for. Toadspike[Talk]16:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Way too many items on the dab page. I strongly disagree that being ongoing ... makes it more relevant. This is an encyclopedia, not a news aggregator. Srnec (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not only does this article have almost twice as many monthly pageviews as all other articles combined (59,169 this article and 37,244 the rest), but most of the articles listed on the dab page should not be there per WP:DABNOT or MOS:DABNOENTRY. --RobertJohnson35 (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will say that I'm neutral on moving to Yemeni Civil War, but oppose Second Yemeni Civil War. Not only is "second yemeni civil war" an exceedingly rare name, it's also factually incorrect - RobertJohnson above already gave a quite large list of civil wars above (and that's nothing to say about civil wars between Yemeni imams in the Qasimid State that haven't received Wikipedia pages yet). Yemeni civil war (1994) can remain disambiguated with the year in its name. Koopinator (talk) 07:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of those wars were either within North/South Yemen, or, in the case of the Yemenite Wars, interstate conflicts rather than intrastate. With regards to the Qasimid civil wars, are they ever called "Yemeni civil war(s)"?
In any case I support moving "Yemeni civil war" to "Yemeni civil war (disambiguation)". Whether "Yemeni civil war" remains a redirect to that disambiguation or this page, I am, all things considered, honestly ambivalent, since at least for the time being this will be the Yemeni Civil War people talk about, but I'd prefer future-proofing the page, so I continue opposing a straight up rename in favor of either leaving the years or adding "second" to the title. Pescavelho (talk) 12:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With regards to the Qasimid civil wars, are they ever called "Yemeni civil war(s)"? They probably called themselves "Yemenis". In the same way, the Ummayads didn't refer to themselves as Ummayads but as Muslims and we call them that way now to differentiate between the different dynasties Abo Yemen✉13:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With regards to the Qasimid civil wars, are they ever called "Yemeni civil war(s)"? I'll quote from The Sultan's Yemen (2002, p18): "Moresby’s letter from Jiddah of 26 June 1833 painted a bleak picture: the imam had died and with him the last semblance of order; Bilmez was detaining Surat ships at Mocha; and commerce was deplorable and its revival could be assured only if Muhammad Ali took possession of Yemen. Even then it would not be an easy task — the viceroy would have to contend not only with the rebels but also with an interior of Yemen torn by the civil wars precipitated by the feuding brothers of the deceased imam, none of whom enjoyed much force, power or strong backing." So, it doesn't directly use the term "Yemeni civil war", but that's what it really boils down to. Koopinator (talk) 13:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There are no fewer than twenty articles listed at the DAB currently at Yemeni civil war. The case for any one of them to be primary over all of the other nineteen taken together would need to be far stronger than the arguments put so far. Andrewa (talk) 19:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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i have found source that state that al Qaeda in Yemen is a rural force and al Mudiyah is under STC control i have also found a source which state Houthi encroaching upon APQA forces form there south east.
yeah probably you write but he is a live journalist probalby based form his picture and you know that could just be his pfp but yeah stc completely eradicating APQA is a bit exgarted but i do believe that the houthi part may actually be correct plus it wouldnt realy be professional of a journalist to be so biased if he want to get the truth but what do i know i guess we have to wait for more info Kowf (talk) 16:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
well we aren't going to base our map on a single "reporter"'s reporting. We will have to see if any RS report the same thing that he reported Abo Yemen✉16:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah same one my end yemen and ongoing conflicts are hard because of how rare sources are but there has to be something but insahallah we will find a way Kowf (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah most of there stuff is belonging to civilian things but i thinks its because this the new year and no one has yet checked plus al Mudiyah is relatively small areas sure it has al Qaeda presence but i don't think it would be all that relevant plus it just seems like an normal city like i was thinking it would be like an openly jihadi city like APQA forces openly in the streets but no its like an normal city which let me partially believe that APQA forces are etheir really good at hiding or they are a rural force and they probably just stay in outskirts but its hard to say at the moment unless somebody takes the risk to go there but i dont think anyone will. Kowf (talk) 14:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]