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The detailed listing of displays was just copied from the museum website.What this articles needs is secondary sources, not more material from the museum itself. Felsic2 (talk) 18:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My edits were knee-jerk reverted by a thoughtless editor. Don't do that again without discussion. Felsic2 (talk) 16:04, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Knee-jerk insults ("thoughtless") is hardly the way to influence discussions here. Having some content is better than no content. Why not include this content, and then work to improve it? Or, do you believe it is better to throw out all useful information regarding the contends at the museum, as having no firearms information is better than imperfect firearms information? What is the reason for deleting imperfect content, that at least is informative. Wikipedia is big enough to remain a work in progress. Or, do you prefer removing any content dealing with firearms? Miguel Escopeta (talk) 18:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's better to not have content than to have bad content. This is not meant to be a copy of the museum's website. We don't list the menus of restaurants either.

And please stop reverting everything I do. You have been warned in the past and I'll report you if you continue. Felsic2 (talk) 18:55, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't see a source, or any policy justification. I'll tag the material and delete it later if it's still unsourced. Felsic2 (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the article has been tagged for years. You seem to believe that WP policies don't apply. Felsic2 (talk) 22:01, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello - I'm visiting from WP:3O. While there is a case to be made in some circumstances that "bad" content is better than no content, the material in this article appears to be posted in violation of copyright, and should accordingly be deleted. Steve Smith (talk) 03:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Felsic2 (talk) 18:35, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed revision

Jim Supica (talk · contribs) suggested at his talk page (diff) the following overhaul to the article. He also declared a conflict of interest related to the subject. His proposed text is as follows:

The NRA National Firearms Museum is a museum located at the NRA Headquarters Building in Fairfax Virginia. Approximated 2,500 guns are displayed in 15,000 square feet. The NRA National Firearms Museum is operated by the Museums Division of the National Rifle Association of America (NRA), with partial funding provided by the NRA Foundation, a 501(c)3 corporation. It was established in 1935 at the old NRA Headquarters in Washington DC, and moved to its current location in 1998.

The museum’s exhibits cover seven centuries of firearms development and history. The main museum galleries are organized chronologically. Exhibits include firearms used for competition shooting, hunting, personal defense, recreational shooting, and police work. Also on display are military arms used by the United States, its allies and enemies in major conflicts from the American Revolution through Desert Storm. Each gallery is evocative of a period of time in American history, including a stockade fort at Jamestown, firearms of the Old West, a Coney Island shooting gallery ca. 1900, and a kid’s bedroom from the 1950s. Life-sized dioramas include a nineteenth century rifle-maker’s shop, a trench on the Western Front in WWI, and a shelled-out town square in Normandy in WWII. ^[1]

Two galleries feature firearms and the arts. "The Robert E. Petersen Gallery" features masterpieces of firearms engraving. The "Hollywood Guns" exhibit features actual guns used in movies and television over the past 80 years. ^[2] ^[3]

Historically attributed guns on display include: ^[4] • A wheellock carbine attributed as coming over on the Mayflower • Guns owned by Presidents Theodore Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan • Firearms of exhibition shooters such as Annie Oakley, the Topperweins, and Ed McGivern • The first machine gun used in combat by the U.S. Army (Roosevelt's Rough Riders) • Guns of Olympic gold medalists including Launi Meili, and other shooting champions • A massive four bore rifle carried on the Stanley expedition to find Dr. Livingston • Sidearms of American Generals and Medal of Honor recipients • Napoleon Bonaparte's flintlock fowler • Arms attributed to Gen. W.T. Sherman, abolitionist John Brown, "Buffalo Bill" Cody, and other historic figures.

The NRA Museums Division is custodian of approximately 10,000 firearms with many of them displayed at three NRA Museums - the NRA National Firearms Museum in Fairfax, Virginia; the NRA National Sporting Arms Museum at Bass Pro Shops in Springfield, Missouri; and the Frank Brownell Museum of the Southwest at the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, New Mexico.

The NRA Museums Division has published three books on firearms - "Illustrated History of Firearms," "Treasures of the NRA National Firearms Museum," and "Gun of the NRA National Sporting Arms Museum." It has produced five seasons of cable television shows "NRA Gun Gurus" ^[5] and "NRA Guns & Gold." NRA Museums staff, firearms, and locations are featured on "Gun Stories," "American Rifleman Television," "NRA News Curators Corner" segment, and other television shows.

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I reverted an earlier edit he made because it was more promotional in tone. This version feels more acceptable. Do other editors agree? —C.Fred (talk) 21:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/museumday/venues/museum/nra-national-firearms-museum/

[2] ttps://www.atlasobscura.com/places/national-firearms-museum

[3] ttps://roadtrippers.com/stories/the-national-firearms-museum-has-a-collection-of-700-years-of-firearms

[4] ttps://www.c-span.org/classroom/document/?3664

[5] ttps://www.nratv.com/series/nra-gun-gurus

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