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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Kline's Mill is a rare surviving example of an Oliver Evans milling system from 1794?

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Continuing the discussion started at User talk:Dlthewave#Re: Draft:Klines Mill, Virginia...

Dlthewave - As I said on your talk, the problem I have with removing all mentions within the article text that Kline's Mill at least in the past was a community is that this phrase/word/description does seem to be warranted...this former crossroads (the Klines Mill Road used to run east/west but was truncated by I-81 and in the past intersected with Ridings Mill Road) had multiple houses with different families, the original 1770s flaxseed Mill and then the subsequent 1794/5 flour Mill and then the subsequent sawmill (that operated until sometime in the 1950s or so) + other possible businesses (a corn shed/barn is mentioned), that post office, even the road named for the place... I understand that perhaps the community doesn't technically belong within the Wikipedia "unincorporated community" article Category but it is referred to as a place and as a community in many of the references I have consulted so far. Shearonink (talk) 17:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm missing something, the sources in the article seem to describe it as a complex of mill buildings. The "unincorporated community" label seems to have originated from a GNIS entry which is not reliable for that. Do you have other sources that specifically refer to it as a community? –dlthewave ☎ 20:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple families lived there, multiple people were born there, multiple people died there, multiple people were buried locally, there was a post office, there was a general store, there was a mill that was in use from 1770s as a grain/feed mill until the early 20th Century and then as a sawmill until sometime in the 1960s, there was the H.B. Kline & Brothers business that operated the store, the post office, and the mill at least in the 1890s ...seems like a community to me. The H.B. Kline business that operated the mill and the post office and the general store, is described in the book History of Virginia, Volume 5 on Page 193. I am waiting to get access to a local newspaper article written about Kline's Mill that describes it as a community hub, as a gathering place for locals.

WP:GEOLAND (part of the WP guideline Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features), states that unofficial neighborhoods can be considered notable on a case-by-case basis. So, even if we agree to disagree on the matter of Kline's Mill being an "unincorporated community" I think it is possible that Kline's Mill is an unofficial neighborhood. Shearonink (talk) 02:18, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is an Angelfire website but can it be added as an External link?...

Best Example of an Oliver Evans Mill in North America - milling website by Theodore R. Hazen, Millwright & Miller

Would like opinions if this site in an archive-link form could be added as the External Link section. Mr. Hazen is a Millwright who has worked at the mill in the National Park Service/Rock Creek Park. Shearonink (talk) 20:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]