Talk:John Catsimatidis

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This piece seems to be a reprint of the subject's website. It leaves out the long history of labor problems (poor working conditions, minimum wage violations) and fines at some of his markets, and an almost maniac aversion to various recycling laws, especially in New York City.

I'm a wiki-noob, but he was quoted in a NYT article today on Clinton's campaign:

“It’s a lot more than anyone expected two months ago,” Mr. Catsimatidis said. “President Clinton is a competitive guy, and he has said himself that the March 31 fund-raising deadline was the first primary.” This guy is a liar cheat and crook

This entry reads like a vanity piece. Is this guy noteworthy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.75.218.218 (talk) 14:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another logical question would be, if he was nominated for West Point, how was he able to avoid military service and the intense pressure of the Vietnam draft? Yes, there was a lottery later on, but people were regularly drafted out of law school and grad school through 1968. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.27.38 (talk) 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing references

Someone changed the references to just numbers instead of the correct format. I figured out what the changes were here: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=John_Catsimatidis&diff=574642793&oldid=574555738 but I can't undo that edit. If someone had the time to manually add the correct info, that would be great. Thanks, David O. Johnson (talk) 03:44, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've been taking a couple of minutes every few days and fixing them. As you noted, someone dumped a hefty chunk of cut-and-paste into this article (I suspect they wrote it offline using some template, and then just uploaded it...).

So one of these days I'll finish. If you or anyone else has some time, feel free as well. wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 04:07, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed all of the references now.David O. Johnson (talk) 05:16, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks a lot better and less painful to read. Thanks wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 14:04, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethnicity and Birthplace/Prior Nationality in Lead

Recently there has been a user who has been editing the lead and breaking the three revert-rule regarding the addition of the phrase "Greek-" to the lead. As it has been pointed out many times before by multiple users, per WP:Ethnicity/MOS:Ethnicity, place of birth, prior nationality, ethnicity, etc. are not included in the lead unless directly relevant to notability. This individual's notability occurred in the United States as a U.S. citizen. Appropriately, then, per wikipedia guidelines for biography leads, we would not include the phrase "Greek-" within the lead prior to this individual's American nationality. I started this talk page as an opportunity for discussion if any users have thoughts regarding this. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 17:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Personally i don't care whether the lede is changed to "American billionaire". But as a sidenote, since he was born in Greece and left for the States when he was just 6 months old, i would presume that he also holds Greek citizenship, which would justify "Greek-American billionaire" in the lede per MOS:CONTEXTBIO. Haven't checked for any sources on that though. Demetrios1993 (talk) 20:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see your point, although whether he has dual citizenship is regardless of where he was born, as there are people who were not born in Greece who may also have dual citizenship with Greece and another country. However, I don't think we have any sources attesting that he retains Greek citizenship (at least none I am aware of), whereas we have at least one clear source: https://www.forbes.com/profile/john-catsimatidis/?sh=29d2be114a30 that states he has United States citizenship. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unless Catsimatidis' current Greek citizenship/nationality is supported by reliable sources then it shouldn't be in the article, let alonE the lead. Per WP:CONTEXTBIO "previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability". In order to be compliant with BLP policy, the contested Greek citizenship/nationality should be excluded unless there are multiple reliable sources both confirming the information and, due to scope of coverage, its particular relevance.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]