Talk:Georgian Airways Flight 834
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[edit]Details sketchy atm, but JACDEC reporting possibly CRJ-100, possibly with regn UN-834. Mjroots (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Here's a photo of the tail; it doesn't look like a CRJ-100 to me, although I may be wrong. I would say it's a prop. Nothing on Avherald or ASN yet. wackywace 16:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- L'Express implying it was a C-130 if the picture is anything to go by. UN-834 may be a fleet number rather than an aircraft regn. UN is assigned the registration 4U-, but operate many aircraft under other countries' registrations, as evidenced by the photo on the L'Express story. Mjroots (talk) 16:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- ASN says it is a Fokker 100. There's nothing on any aircraft registered UN-843 on Google. wackywace 17:21, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added that info in. For now, we'll go with what is verfiable, even if it's wrong. Mjroots (talk) 17:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Info on ASN is updated in a CRJ-100 with registration 4L-GAE. Ajwkam (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Just on that photo of the tail: it doesn't look like a CRJ-100 because it isn't; it's a photo of TN-AGK, which crashed in the Congo last month. Looks like the news website is using stock photos of air crashes to illustrate air crashes (duh?). wackywace 18:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Info on ASN is updated in a CRJ-100 with registration 4L-GAE. Ajwkam (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added that info in. For now, we'll go with what is verfiable, even if it's wrong. Mjroots (talk) 17:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- ASN says it is a Fokker 100. There's nothing on any aircraft registered UN-843 on Google. wackywace 17:21, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- L'Express implying it was a C-130 if the picture is anything to go by. UN-834 may be a fleet number rather than an aircraft regn. UN is assigned the registration 4U-, but operate many aircraft under other countries' registrations, as evidenced by the photo on the L'Express story. Mjroots (talk) 16:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Title
[edit]Now that the aircraft type is known, we should consider moving the article to a better title per WP:AVIMOS. 2011 United Nations Bombardier CRJ-100 crash anybody? Mjroots (talk) 08:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, as long as you make it 2011, fine... The Rambling Man (talk) 08:52, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Oops! what day is it? Mjroots (talk) 10:39, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Done Mjroots (talk) 10:42, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Oops! what day is it? Mjroots (talk) 10:39, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't the name include the date since there was no flight number? That is usual practice per the Wikiproject Aviation style guideline. Ravendrop 18:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- It was in the title, well 2011 was, but another editor moved it saying disambiguation by year was not needed. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, which is why I was asking. Should have made that clear. Ravendrop 18:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that per the usual guideline we'd add 2011 to the start of the title, but perhaps you'd like to address this issue to the editor who moved the page in the first place? Don't need an edit war on an article which is main-page featured. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:51, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like it's User:David Levy you need to alert to this request as he moved it without discussion to remove the year. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, which is why I was asking. Should have made that clear. Ravendrop 18:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Aviation Safety Net gives the flight number UNO 834 for it. Request Rename. --212.21.42.133 (talk) 17:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Add to category: sole survivors?
[edit]Or whatever category it is. Like the article about that African plane crash where only the little Dutch child survived? It was like in '09 or '10... Lilly (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- You mean Afriqiyah Airways Flight 771? That was last year. Mjroots (talk) 17:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Figures
[edit]Avherald is now reporting that Georgian Airways has said "all 29 passengers and 4 crew" were killed in the crash, but ASN says one survived. There still appears to be a lot of confusion about the figures, should they be changed or not? wackywace 20:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- No harm in waiting a few hours. As is usual with aircrashes, things are unclear to start with, and then further facts emerge later. Mjroots (talk) 20:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Seems pretty clear now that there was a survivor. Mjroots (talk) 10:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Username006 (talk) 11:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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2011 United Nations Bombardier CRJ-100 crash → United Nations Flight 834 – The flight number seems to be 834, ASN and baaa-acro even list it as Flight 834. Instead of having such a long name which no one will remember, Let's rename this to United Nations Flight 834. Even this source says it: https://www.aircrashconsult.info/PASSENGER_LIST/passenger_list_of_UNO834.htm . In fact, one of the sources used in this page also mentions it as flight 834: http://avherald.com/h?article=43a6f804&opt=1 . It is standard proceedure to name an aircraft accident with its flight number if its known. Username006 (talk) 07:14, 25 July 2021 (UTC) Username006 (talk) 07:14, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Support The flight number is clearly given. This page should be moved. KlientNo.1 (talk) 11:01, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Strong Support - An earlier discussion was made where an IP user requested a page move but got no response. I agree, this page should be moved. 110.224.139.60 (talk) 11:09, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
I am moving the page. Username006 (talk) 11:24, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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