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Visual Arts coverage talk - seeking process advice

Hi y'all! This message is primarily meant for the longer-term participants in WP Albums, as I'm asking about some older processes and structures related to the WikiProject.

I edit primarily on visual arts-related articles. I have long admired the community guidelines and WikiProject info pages that the Albums WP has produced and maintained over the years. After running into quite a few conundrums over the years in my own edits - facing questions related to the specifics of editing visual arts articles and using visual arts sources - I thought I'd start a conversation in the WP Visual Arts about creating some broader guidelines or community norms for sources and articles on the topic, similar to the WP Albums sources page. That conversation is ongoing over there (hoping to drum up some more involvement, so if anyone here also edits on visual arts, please chime in there!).

What I wanted to ask this WP about is the process that you created/followed for developing, gathering feedback on, executing, and ultimately maintaining the Sources page. I wasn't able to find much about the proper process for creating something like that, and I didn't want to charge ahead full steam without getting some advice from editors who have created something similar in the past. If you have anywhere to point me, feel free to send me elsewhere, but if anyone has any specific insights or advice that would be rad! Thanks all. 19h00s (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

From my experience over the past almost 15 years, it's partly about replicating the process at the general noticeboard for reliability, as well as going from the essay on guidelines for album articles (which currently is being updated and discussed for becoming an official Manual of Style. Typically, the process I've seen, and participated in, is using some benchmarks to try and ascertain a reputation for fact checking and accuracy, an editorial process, and the publisher being independent of the writers at minimum or even a separate company from the source. Also, whether a source is established and has some reputation among sources already deemed reliable (thus giving opinions and other journalism in the source more weight in using it for supporting notability. And there is an element of personal judgment as to the quality of the source. The above discussion regarding Metal.de could be helpful. I selected a few discussions you can use for reference for what the process looks like: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_32#Review_publications:_Rock_Sound,_Spin,_Metal_Hammer,_Vibe,_Mojo,_Kerrang!_and_Q, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_43#Consequence_of_Sound, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_49#Sea_of_Tranquliity, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_49#What_makes_a_review_relevant_enough_to_be_included? (note that this last one is not about a specific source, but about more generally how to determine the due weight to give a specific source).--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:39, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Really can't express how useful this is, thank you so much!! 19h00s (talk) 01:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome! Definitely also take a look through the Sources page and follow the links to the requisite discussions.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 12:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I've been around here for 15ish years as well. (I started in late 2008 and immediately worked in the music content area, though I can't quite recall when became active here specifically.) I know I've try to model our guidelines and resources after the work done at the video game Wikiproject - WP:VG - and their standards at MOS:VG. They're one of the most advanced and active ones in existence, and I'm equally active over there. Sergecross73 msg me 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

This is super useful, thank you! I'll take a look at the WP Video Games and the different standards they've built out over the years. 19h00s (talk) 16:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Comment at Template talk:Infobox song#RfC: Customizing Infobox Background Colors Based on Album or Single Cover Colors

There is a RfC discussion at Template talk:Infobox song § RfC: Customizing Infobox Background Colors Based on Album or Single Cover Colors. I highly recommend to join on this discussion to members of this WikiProject. ROY is WAR Talk! 10:57, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Harum Scarum (film)#Requested move 26 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Harum Scarum (film)#Requested move 26 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ROY is WAR Talk! 16:23, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Any sources for Hong Kong charts?

Are there any only sources of album charts for Hong Kong? One Mission (Sherman Chung album) was recently put up for PROD. I frankly believe that's probably correct, but if the album charted it might be worth adding to the article and retaining it; but I can't find any such sources. TJRC (talk) 23:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)