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January 2025

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Thank you. C F A 18:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CFA: I did assume good faith, which is why I posted at WP:RM/T instead of reporting to WP:AIV. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 04:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You called Sportzlove a "vandal" for performing a series of moves you did not agree with. Disruptive? Maybe. But it was not vandalism. I suppose the correct template here would've been {{uw-npa}}. C F A 04:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There were RM consensus against those moves (Talk:National Cricket League#Requested move 25 September 2016 for example), I listed those moves not because I disagree with them, I listed them because they were against existing RM consensus.

Also per WP:MOVEVANDAL, which says Changing the names of pages to disruptive, irrelevant, or otherwise inappropriate names. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 04:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move vandalism would have involved moving Genghis Khan to Idiot, for example. The action of moving against consensus may have been disruptive, but the titles themselves were not vandalism. See WP:NOTVANDAL: In short, all vandalism is disruptive editing, but not all disruptive editing is vandalism.. C F A 04:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions discussion

Hello Vestrian24Bio,

I know you are better editor than me as you have been editing on wikpedia scince very long time. But your move about Template:Twenty20 competitions is worng this time. The domestic cricket competitions templete are written in the way displayed in eg: Template:First-class cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions. So, don't take the things on ego. Anything better is good. This is not international cricket competions. It's domestic cricket competitions, And there is no need of defunct competitions to be mentioned as the are deeply discused in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions. Only ICC memebrs team competitions should be mentined. So, I request to don't mess it.

Hope you get it. Wating for your reply. So, I can move the tempalte to Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions and make edit to the template or you move it and edit it likewise in Template:List A cricket domestic competitions.🙏 Csknp (talk) 07:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Csknp: Twenty20 cricket is more significant than List A or First-class cricket, thus it should be treated similar to Template:International cricket. Vestrian24Bio 08:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No it shouldn't, and you need to get consensus from cricket editors if you want to treat it differently. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302: The T20 template has been like this, in cases of WP:CONSISTENT it's the List A and First-class templates that should be changed to include all notable competitions. But, I would agree we'd need a wider discussion before making any changes. Vestrian24Bio 09:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Twenty20 cricket is more significant but you should also consider we are not taking about International cricket, it's about domestic Twenty20 cricket. So, why to treate it like Template:International cricket if there has been a template follwed for domestic competitions like in Template:List A cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions So, in my opinion Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions should also be made in same way🙏 . Csknp (talk) 09:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say all cricket navboxes, (regardless of whether international or domestic) should be in the same way. Vestrian24Bio 09:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No it shouldn't, there is difference between international and domestic cricket. Both have different level. So, why to compare it. Rather doing things follwed previously for domestic cricket template. Csknp (talk) 09:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd disagree with that and also from your above comment,

no need of defunct competitions to be mentioned - why? all related page links should be given in a navbox.
the are deeply discused in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions - so...?
Only ICC memebrs team competitions should be mentined - why is that?

Also we should do this discussion in a template talk page rather than my user talk page and should get input from other editors as well. Vestrian24Bio 09:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only ICC memebrs team competitions should be mentined - Beacuse those touranments are only important and necessary for international competitions.
They are deeply discused in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions and no need of defunct competitions to be mentioned - So, every defunt tournament mentioned will make the template longer and currently every ICC memebrs country have many Twenty20 competitions (including leagues) which has made the template longer already. And if any local t20 competitions is being held with out the respective country cricket board why should it be mentioned in template. If you are too concerd about defunct competitions and related page links should be given in a navbox. Then, make a template named Template:Defunct Twenty20 cricket competitions and place it there.

Csknp (talk) 10:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Defunct teams should be kept, as it's a navigation box so it helps navigate between them. However, I have realised that not all of these T20 competitions are "domestic" as there are a number of "international" ones that have teams from multiple countries. This seems like it needs a wider discussion at WT:CRIC, though if international T20 tournaments are listed here, the name should not include domestic. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right. That's why i had tried to edit Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions with only ICC memebrs domestic competition (including league) as per standard domestic template in Template:First-class cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions. But User:Vestrian24Bio has been undoing edits. In my opinion for defunct competition seprate template should be made otherwise there is no reason of it as defunct and "international competitions" ones that have teams from multiple countries all are meintioned in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions. Csknp (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Csknp, Domestic or Multi-national they are Twenty20 competitions. We should go for less templates with more links as opposed to more templates with less links as you are proposing. Also, there's nothing with a navbox being long, have you seen international cricket season navboxes... And even if we create separate navboxes as you're proposing they are most likely to end-up being merged together through TfD. Vestrian24Bio 12:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go and see Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions now. It must be ok now as there is both current and defunct Twenty20 competitions mentioned. Csknp (talk) 13:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should not do this until a consensus is reached, I will raise this at WT:CRIC. Vestrian24Bio 01:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Template:Twenty20 competitions. Vestrian24Bio 02:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mario GA fail

Hello Vestrian, it seems that you failed my GA nom of the Super Mario Bros. Movie, citing the top 50 authors list. While it’s important for nominators to have correspondent editing history, this scenario did not entirely warrant a closure, since my contributions were not minimal. Perhaps a reconsideration of the closure and a different view of the “drive-by” rule could ensure the article becomes of high quality to readers. Thank you.

PS: Thank you for picking up my GA nom of Pixels (2015 film); it’s been needing a review for a month. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 03:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Yovt: I'm a little busy today, I will look into it tomorrow. Vestrian24Bio 08:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much for your review. This is a big article and I know it took a lot of work to review it properly. Much appreciated. - adamstom97 (talk) 13:23, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Adamstom.97: You're welcome! It's my pleasure to review the article. Always happy to help! Vestrian24Bio 09:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@OlifanofmrTennant thanks! Vestrian24Bio 16:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I noticed another user submitted the article "One of the Girls" for a good article nomination and it was failed by you as they did not contribute to the article. As the article's main contributor, I'd be happy to work with you to make the article GA. I've submitted it myself this time as a GA nominee, let me know if you'd be interested again! Flabshoe1 (talk) 15:11, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Flabshoe1: I've picked up the GAN, but I'm a little busy now. It might take take a day or three to go on with the review, hope you don't mind the delay. Vestrian24Bio 16:23, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Giants2008 thanks. Vestrian24Bio 10:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:History of English cricket (1726–1750)/GA1

Hi, Nimrou. I'm afraid I'll be unavailable from today, for the medium term at least, so I think it may be best to close this GAN unless you can complete it without my assistance. Sorry for the inconvenience, but thanks for your interest, and all the best. Beir bua! ReturnDuane (talk) 10:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ReturnDuane: When will you get back? Vestrian24Bio 10:51, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

After this morning, it will be weeks, possibly months. Sorry, but I can't be specific. ReturnDuane (talk) 10:56, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ReturnDuane: Okay, I will close the GAN. When you get back just leave me a message and we'll do the rest of the review then. Vestrian24Bio 10:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair enough. Thanks again. ReturnDuane (talk) 11:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome

Vestrian24Bio 11:01, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your WikiCup submissions: two GAN reviews

Hi Vestrian24Bio, thanks for participating in the WikiCup. You recently submitted Talk:The Two Hundred/GA2 and Talk:Best Friends Forever (South Park)/GA1 for GANR points in the WikiCup. Unfortunately, neither review is long enough: they are both quick fails with one sentence of text. As per Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring, such reviews are ineligible for points; you can only claim points for sufficiently detailed reviews, and quick fails usually don't qualify for points in any case. Epicgenius (talk) 02:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Got it, thanks for the message. Vestrian24Bio 02:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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