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RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins[edit]

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please weigh in productively on the climate change speed discussion?[edit]

Please help us fix the article without a mountain of process by being clear with bogazicili that 1+1 does not equal 3. Removing a clearly false statement should not require a long discussion on how 1+2 equals 3 or how the article has changed over time or whatever else. I think it's going to require a lot of stupid process to get past egos and get this fixed if you don't step in with clarity. Thank you. Efbrazil (talk) 15:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Efbrazil. If I wasn't so overworked atm, I would have done so yesterday. I think the atmosphere in many of the climate climate articles has not been as good as it was a couple years back, and me moving mostly to other areas / being less active with long COVID hasn't helped, as we need people to propose concise compromises. The amount of text on CC pages is often too much for me to wade through, but I'll have a look now.
I think you can also play a role in improving interactions. It's sometimes said that experienced editors should typically abide by WP:1RR (or even WP:0RR. A revert can provoke a defensive reaction, leading to an overly long debate. If you wait for somebody else to revert, it usually sticks. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank Femke, I really appreciate your involvement, and I am very sorry to hear you are still suffering from long covid. I very much appreciate how you are able to get everyone to contribute productively. As you know though, that can take endless time and patience. That must be particularly challenging given your current situation.
My own approach is to always look for common ground, but I get impatient when I don't think that's being reciprocated. When the other side is driven by ego and simply wants to "win" and assumes the worst of everyone else it can be exhausting. I can snap when I get to the point of wanting to quit editing, because what I see is that the obviously wrong side will "win" simply by being a relentless asshole. But that's life, right? Efbrazil (talk) 22:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of the ways I try to shorten debates is to "compromise first". I'm less successful int that than before. Try to figure out why people say things, even if what they say isn't quite correct or you disagree with it.
It can definitely be annoying when others seem to assume the worst. The best way to deal with this is focus on content, and ignore the fluff on the talk page, and possibly write a kind and undnerstanding message on the user talk of the person who is not focussing solely on content. Assume good faith, usually people are driven by a passion for what they think is right, not by ego. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 07:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


story · music · places

Today's TFA, Felix M. Warburg House, was written by Vami_IV and Epicgenius, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gerda. I still can't quite believe he's passed away. Such a wonderful person with an immense legacy. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yes! and 3 more TFAs to come soon - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics of places show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Femke, do you have a copy of "ME/CFS, case definition, and serological response to Epstein-Barr virus. A systematic literature review"? I think we need to be more precise about "antibody activity". Graham Beards (talk) 12:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's accessible via the Wikipedia Library (it's not prompting me to connect to my uni), but happy to send you the paper of course :). —Femke 🐦 (talk) 13:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It won't give me access :-( could you email a copy? best, Graham Beards (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch CFS article[edit]

Hi Femke. I saw that your mother language is Dutch and was wondering if you good give any advice on updating the Dutch article on 'chronischevermoeidheidssyndroom'. It's quite a mess and has not been updated in a long time. I've tried to make a case of changing the title to ME/CFS instead of CFS on the talk page but because I'm new to Wikipedia, other editors were suspicious of me and disapproved my suggestion. I'm now slowly trying to update the content of the CFS page but I suspect I might run into similar issues (skepticism of other editors towards me as a new member who is trying to rewrite most of the content on the page). Any help or advice from a experienced Wikipedia editor like yourself would be very much appreciated. Best wishes, --Odobert (talk) 19:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great work there :). With 3 people in favour and 2 against, it's likely that the suggested merge will fail on the Dutch Wikipedia, unless there are more people joining the discussion. It can be frustrating, but it's a normal part of editing that people may not agree all the time.
So far, your updates to the CVS page seem to be able to stick. The best way forward is to continue to be slow, and give people the opportunity to react to what you've written. If you edit in small batches, people may revert one or two edits while leaving most of your updates be.
One thing that can bring out "mentoring mode" from other people, is working towards the Dutch equivalent of a featured article, a nl:WP:etalage article. The standards on the Dutch Wikipedia are less strict than here, and it's a fun process. First you get a peer review, and then others will vote whether it meets the high standards. But it will require some time investment. Another thing you may want to do to avoid Wikipedia:BITEY behaviour from experienced editors is edit a bit in other topics. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, much appreciated. Odobert (talk) 14:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

Administrator changes

readded Graham Beards

Bureaucrat changes


Oversight changes

removed Dreamy Jazz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351



DYK for Chronotropic incompetence[edit]

On 7 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chronotropic incompetence, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that many people with heart failure, diabetes, or ME/CFS cannot raise their heart rates sufficiently during exercise? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chronotropic incompetence. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Chronotropic incompetence), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, thanks for your comments at PR. If you're free, you can drop your comments at the FAC. Thanks, Wolverine XI (talk to me) 14:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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TCC things[edit]

Hi Femke, I've started a Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Preparations for future years. Figured it would be good to have all the planning in one page, and for future judges. Feel free to add anything that looks missing; there's probably few things I'm going to add, but the basics are there already.

Also, I was planning to make a short FAQ page for the contest. I'm finding that we're repeatedly asked the same handful of questions: what is core/is this core enough; can/how I withdraw; can I enter more than one article; work with multiple people; etc. Let me know if you think of any others.

I've been meaning to do this all for a while, and figured it would be good to have it ready well before next year. Aza24 (talk) 04:14, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).

Administrator changes


Technical news


FAC tidying[edit]

Hello! Touching base because I find myself with a little bit more time on my hands than I’ve had recently and wondered if there was anything I might lend a hand on as you finalize myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome for FAC. I haven’t been involved in the process before and I’d be curious to learn even just about the routine parts—happy to pitch in with things like ref formatting if that still needs doing. Maybe it’s really already all set but just in case I thought I’d inquire whether there was still help I could offer! Innisfree987 (talk) 08:14, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Innisfree :). Thanks for the offer! I think consistent ref formatting is done, but I have quite a poor eye for it, so would appreciate another pair of eyes. Over the last couple of months, I've been able to reduce the number of citations, removing lower-quality ones, which should make the job easier. English is not my first language; some others have done in-detail prose commenting, but nobody has gone over the new management section, so some feedback on the prose there would also be welcome.
I hope to nominate later this month, and hoping to get opinions at Wikipedia:Peer review/Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome/archive1 on whether it's ready. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great, I’ll have a look over both of those! Thanks for the suggestions, and for your remarkable, steady work on this! I’ve really learned a lot for my own editing from the example. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:43, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Reviewer Barnstar
Given all you have been doing at WP:GA, WP:FA and WP:TCC, this barnstar is long overdue. Keep up the great work! Phlsph7 (talk) 15:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Hope you didn't mind me going a bit overboard on the ethics review. Fingers crossed it'll attract some more reviewers soon. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found your ideas on making the article more accessible quite helpful! It's better to be too detailed than too brief, especially with an article of this scope. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]