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The Signpost: 16 July 2014

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Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon!

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Greetings!

Sorry for the last minute update, but our friends at the DC Historical Society have scheduled a Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Civil War battle fought in the District. The event will last from noon to 2 PM on Wednesday, July 30. Hope you can make it!

Best,

James Hare

(To unsubscribe, remove your username here.) 21:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 July 2014

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The Signpost: 30 July 2014

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CFD Retain page: minor error

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I occasionally use WP:CFDWR and usually have no problem. Today I noticed that the bot removed all the templates, but left a message stating that it had not removed one.[1] This is not a priority, but I thought you would want to know. – Fayenatic London 15:22, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the problem was that the page was listed twice. So it removed the template the first time, and couldn't find it the second time. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 06 August 2014

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Proposed deletion of Kenji Urada

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The article Kenji Urada has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This person's death, not the first but one of the first by robot, is the only thing to make him notable. Notability should be the first robot death.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 22:30, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong date in deletion log edit summary

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Hi Cyde, I listed Category:Proposed railways in Algeria at WP:CFDW for renaming under the heading Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 July 10, but Cydebot stated the wrong date in the deletion log:

This appears to be because there were two CFD discussions linked from the category page, and Cydebot took a date from (the wrong) one of those, rather than from the heading at CFDW.

There wouldn't normally be two concurrent CFDs linked from a category page, but because of the current backlog some editors are not waiting for one to be closed before starting another. – Fayenatic London 13:48, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 August 2014

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Categories can be moved - please stop copy&pasting them

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Please update Cydebot to use the move feature for categories, in stead of copy&pasting them. This feature has been around since late May. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:11, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up (I wasn't sure if this had gone live yet). I'm looking into it now. --Cyde Weys 18:19, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks! Presumably, if the new name already exists, you'll leave this for manual editing/deletion as at present. I think that will still be desirable. – Fayenatic London 15:22, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I request that you not update Cydebot to use the move feature for categories. Personally, I find the page history of a category moved in that manner to be needlessly convoluted. Although the feature may have been around since May, I'm not aware of any consensus to utilize it. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:38, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, please use the move feature (I asked for this a few weeks ago). A category's page history gets no more "convoluted" than any other page's history, and in fact is often much less convoluted than an article's history. It's not like we'll be hitting the 5000-revision limit that would make certain fixups much more difficult. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:53, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with RedRose64, and believe that BF is in a minority on this point. Now that the facility exists, moving the category page after a CFD was (I thought) generally accepted as advantageous and desirable, based on my scanning the discussions at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive262#Category_pages_will_be_movable_soon and Wikipedia_talk:Categorization/Archive_15#Limiting_category_moves. – Fayenatic London 17:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I may be in a minority, or I may be in the majority. The fact is that we don't know because there has been no focused discussion aimed at reaching a consensus, and I don't think we should be changing long-standing practice in the absence of that. I see no general acceptance in the discussions you link to (especially the AN discussion), and in any case neither discussion really focuses on the issue raised above. Most of the AN discussion was contentious and revolved around the user right, and the WT:CAT discussion focused on trying to discourage users from moving categories out-of-process. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:07, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Surely the reason that CydeBot was copypasting the category pages was as a workaround, because it was not possible to use the normal "move" function on a category page? After all, the bot was moving the category talk pages in the normal manner. Now that the normal "move" function can be used on a category page, and the old restriction no longer exists, it is no longer necessary to use the workaround. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:48, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, but that should not matter if we deem the workaround to be superior to the so-called "normal" process (and on this point we may disagree). In truth, I do not think that the move function is a normal process for categories. Categories are fundamentally different from pages in other namespaces: when a non-category page is moved, its contents are moved as well; in the case of a category move, the contents must be removed from the original category and placed in the new category. In any case, I think that changes to a well-established practice should not take place without discussion. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:25, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That makes no sense at all. A category and its description page are completely separate, and have very little in common other than the name. They're not fundamentally different, and there's no reason to destroy their history just because it's the way we've always done it (especially since the only reason we did it like that is that we had to. I'm reminded of [2]). The page move functionality absolutely should be used to move categories. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cydebot and duplicate categories.

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Is there anyway for Cydebot to check that a category is already in the article before renaming 10 separate categories deleted at CfD to the exact same name? Bgwhite (talk) 04:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. I'll have to investigate how PyWikiBot handles this particular part of category manipulation again. A long time ago it was done in the current manner because there were some issues (that I no longer perfectly remember) with trying to do a rename and cleanup. --Cyde Weys 20:53, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 20 August 2014

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Question for you

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All the way back in 2006, you blocked StrangerInParadise (talk · contribs) to implement an arbitration remedy of this case. However, you did not log which was the other account that the editor was using. If you can recall it, would you mind logging to that page? - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 11:26, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 August 2014

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At War With the Army

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Closing credits said Mrs. Caldwell was played by Angela Greene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.213.139.114 (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet

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Come one and come all. To a presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history.

Picture your self leading the masses to improve Wikimedia one article at a time.
  • Show the Internet who is the better editor.
  • Be the creator of culture that you know you are.
  • Spread the knowledge of noteworthy people who no one but you cares about.
  • Lead the charge to a better Wikipedia --- eventually.


Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet

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See you at the Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street, Laurel, MD on Thursday, September 11, 2014 at 7:00 PM EST. See http://www.meetup.com/Wikimedia-DC/events/205494212/ for more information. Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites revolutionaries, free thinkers, and other sundry editors to a DC WikiSalon

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The WikiSalon is a special meetup usually held during the first and third full weeks of every month, from 7 PM to 9 PM. It's an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss Wikimedia wikis and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own.

If you're coming by Metro, the closest station is Dupont Circle (on the Red Line). If you're driving, a lot of parking opens up downtown after 6:30 PM, so finding a parking space (even a free one) should be easy. Once you've found the building, go to Cove on the second floor. We will be in the conference room.

When: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM

Where: The Cove, Dupont Circle, 1730 Connecticut Avenue NW, 2nd floor, 20009, DC


For more information, see http://www.meetup.com/Wikimedia-DC/events/205500822/


My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:25, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 03 September 2014

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Wikimedia DC's Wonderful meetups

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Wikimedia DC's Upcoming meetups

  • Thursday, September 11: “Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet, One Article at a Time!”
    A presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history. Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street in Laurel, MD. 7 PM.
  • Wednesday, September 17: WikiSalon
    Come for the pizza, stay for the conversation. 7 PM – 9 PM
  • Saturday, September 20: September Meetup
    Get dinner and drinks with fellow Wikipedians! 6 PM
  • Sunday, September 21: Laurel History Edit-a-Thon
    Local history for Wikipedia! 10:15 AM – 4 PM
  • Saturday, September 27 – Sunday, September 28: Please RSVP for the Open Government WikiHack at Eventbrite by clicking on the link. The National Archives and Records Administration and Wikimedia DC are teaming up to come up with solutions that help integrate government data into Wikipedia. 10:30 AM – 5 PM each day

My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 22:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 10 September 2014

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The Signpost: 17 September 2014

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Cydebot has stopped

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Hi, I have just emailed in case you were not aware that Cydebot has not made any contribs for two days. Neither of the other CFD bots (e.g. Armbrust's) are processing changes from the Working page either. – Fayenatic London 16:08, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to enable AvicBot now. – Fayenatic London 16:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Fayenatic london:  Mostly done, the remaining things need an admin bit (like yours). Armbrust The Homunculus 21:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Armbrust: Thanks. I've disabled AvicBot again. It didn't run anyway. Does ArmbrustBot only do moves, not deletions? – Fayenatic London 22:15, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Fayenatic london: It's not an adminbot. While the bot flag makes it possible to move pages without leaving a redirect, it can't delete pages. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:17, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll leave the deletions listed for whenever Cydebot gets going again. I've added another batch of renames to wp:CFDW for you. – Fayenatic London 22:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Fayenatic london: Most categories were renamed, and the bot is working on modifying the pages, but this Category:UK Independence Party is the way of renaming Category:United Kingdom Independence Party. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CydeBot stopped again this morning in the middle of a couple of jobs, one of which I have completed manually. – Fayenatic London 07:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Fayenatic london:  Doing the rest... right now. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting the bot up and running on a more reliable computer right now. Hold tight! --Cyde Weys 15:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All right, it's up and running now on another server (the original server is still down). This one should be more reliable. Thanks to everyone who notified me, and please let me know if you notice anything going amiss on the new hosting location. --Cyde Weys 03:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and well done, it is now processing CFDW nicely. However, it's ignoring WP:CFDWR at the moment. – Fayenatic London 22:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hrm, I'm not even remembering how I implemented that one. I'll have to look into it. Probably just template.py with a single page passed to it. --Cyde Weys 15:23, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moving categories

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I noticed that the "Categories can be moved - please stop copy&pasting them" thread fell into the archive without action about a month ago. Since all but one user supported the change, can you implement it now? Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 September 2014

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Sheila faith

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Re your page on Sheila Faith. She was my relative . She died this week . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.253.138.162 (talk) 02:32, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 01 October 2014

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The wonderful annual meeting! And more!

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Hello, fellow Wikipedian!

I am excited to announce our upcoming Annual Meeting at the National Archives! We'll have free lunch, an introduction by Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, and a discussion featuring Ed Summers, the creator of CongressEdits. Join your fellow DC-area Wikipedians on Saturday, October 18 from 12 to 4:30 PM. RSVP today!

Also coming up we have the Human Origins edit-a-thon on October 17 and the WikiSalon on October 22. Hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

James Hare

(To unsubscribe, remove your username here.) 21:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 October 2014

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The Signpost: 15 October 2014

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The Signpost: 22 October 2014

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ECM Records arists

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Category:ECM Records arists is nonsense, of course, should be artists. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: this is not Cyde's responsibility; the bot's changes to categories are programmed at wp: CFDW. See [3]. – Fayenatic London 17:21, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 October 2014

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Help with deletion of articles

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Hi Cyde! I'm an administrator on the Faroese Wikipedia. We currently have more than 510 articles in our "Articles for deletion"-category. Are there any easy way of mass deleting all 500, or will I have to enter each article individually and click delete? iceley 00:02, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User posted substantially the same q at User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 22#Help with deletion of articles (where it was answered) and User talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2014/November#Help with deletion of articles; see WP:MULTI. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:40, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 05 November 2014

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Page deleted

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Hi

I've noticed that the page on the book Cloud Atlas the author David Mitchell has been deleted completely. The message at the top says it was last edited by Cydebot. Is this a malfunction?

Link to the page mentioned: http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Cloud_Atlas_(novel) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.252.173 (talk) 13:05, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) The author hasn't been deleted - this can be checked in desktop view at Cloud Atlas (novel); what seems to have happened is that the vast bulk of the intended page content simply isn't present in mobile view. I don't think that it's a problem with Cydebot, which did nothing other than amend a category. I've left a note at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 131#Minimal display in mobile view. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:25, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Categories added by Template:Year by category

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Today Cydebot processed the move of Category:WTA seasons to Category:WTA Tour seasons. Around 40 subcats in Category:WTA seasons, for example Category:1971 WTA Tour, add the category with {{Year by category}} where parent = WTA seasons should change to parent = WTA Tour seasons. It can be done manually but {{Year by category}} has 69941 transclusions in total so I wonder how often it comes up and whether it would be worth coding Cydebot to automatically change the parent parameter when an affected category is moved. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 November 2014

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A barnstar for you!

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Botstar
After this CFD, Cydebot removed the categories from all the VOA User talk pages I had on my watchlist. So, I've been using Cydebot's edits as a way of cleaning my watchlist :). Very helpful bot overall. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Page removed in the past

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Hi, I am a football player who was at Tottenham as a youth then spent my academy years with dagenham and Redbridge fc then first team years at St albans City fc bury town fc Leiston fc and ilford fc

My details are Lee flavin 18.09.1990 Height 5ft 10cms Weight 11 stone Midfielder British White Leyton stone born — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.242.250 (talk • contribs) Revision as of 22:28, 24 November 2014

The Signpost: 26 November 2014

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Hey I wanted you to know something.

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Hey I saw that you made the (Taga, Burkina Faso) page on Wikipedia and I wanted you to know that I went there back in February 2014, to build a school with 12 other students from New York. My email is tyleldaniels123@gmail.com if you want to see pictures or my presentation on it. Thank you ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.218.172 (talk) 14:00, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 03 December 2014

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End-of-the-year meetups

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Hello,

You're invited to the end-of-the-year meetup at Busboys and Poets on Sunday, December 14 at 6 PM. There is Wi-Fi, so bring your computer if you want!

You are also invited to our WikiSalon on Thursday, December 18 at 7 PM.

Hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

James Hare

(To unsubscribe, remove your username here.) 02:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 December 2014

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The Signpost: 17 December 2014

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Two-mass-skate bicycle

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I felt confused about the need for "positive trail" when reading the article on the two-mass-skate bicycle. The history section seemed to be contradicted by other sections, until I read the entire article several times, and realized that the last sentence is in the past tense. I thought I could improve the article, by making it clear that the "presumption" is no longer true.

Apparently, I also implied something else, which is not true, but I am not sure what it is. I would like the history section bring the reader up to the current state-of-the art, without the need to read the following paragraph. Otherwise, I suggest changing the history section to "Background."

You are obviously more knowledgeable about this subject than I, so I must leave it to you to decide what is true and what is not.

I also felt confused about where to leave a message for you, because is seemed like Cydebot made the edit to the article.

Thanks for being a Wikipedia administrator and for reviewing my change to two-mass-skate bicycle.

I will watch this page, if you wish to comment. Comfr (talk) 16:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I made a mistake in reading the history page, and incorrectly thought you had edited the article. I will redirect my communication to the correct editor. Sorry to bother you. Comfr (talk) 20:19, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 December 2014

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Great

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Wikipedia needs a person like you!

Cyde your smart! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.20.47.141 (talk) 04:56, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lets Team Up!

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With our minds we will change the world I'm 8 years old I know a lot so do you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.20.47.141 (talk) 04:58, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 December 2014

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The Signpost: 07 January 2015

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