User talk:Spinningspark

Landmark detection

I withdrew the AfD and moved the article to landmark detection, but I noticed none of those bad-ass sources from the AfD made it in. If you want to go expand the article now, it's safe (i.e. not about to get steamrolled) :^) jp×g 11:40, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

I intend to take a look, but I may be too busy to do anything until after Christmas Eve. The Yue Wu and Qiang Ji source (which I now have in full) has a good description of the various methods used and will be a good place to start. SpinningSpark 12:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Ohm's Law reversion

Concerning your reversion of my edit, does not Charge density#Definitions explicitly state:

"similarly the surface charge density uses a surface area element dS $$\sigma _{q}={\frac {dQ}{dS}}\,,$$"

--Ben Best:Talk 11:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

@Benbest: That's a different context using the same symbol for a different purpose. There are far more parameters in science and engineering than there are letters in the Greek and Latin alphabets combined. The same letter gets used for different things all the time. Another common use for $\sigma$ is stress, but that would not be a correct link for electrical conductivity either. Even $\pi$, which everyone thinks they know what that stands for, can also mean nucleotide diversity, population proportion, and a type of calculus. None of those would be suitable links for the ratio of the circumferance to the diameter of a circle. If we include the capital letter $\Pi$, there are even more uses. SpinningSpark 20:48, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

• @Spinningspark:Thank you for the clarification. --Ben Best:Talk 12:59, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

		Happy Holidays
		Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 23:27, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

something very strange happened

greetings,

i hope your holidays have been decent so far.

ok, the other day, i created this new talk topic, and when i went to check and make sure it read ok, i noticed the strangest thing.

from out of nowhere, and through no doing of my own, a footnote appeared at the bottom of my newly created post, with a url that linked to some sort of gay hookup site.

like i said, i didnt add this footnote when i wrote the post, and there wasnt any code in the pages source to explain its existence.

i even copied the exact source from the post, band ran it through my sandbox a few times to see what would happen. the footnote and link showed up in my sandbox maybe the first five or six times i ran it. after that, it was gone, it just disappeared without any obvious reason and i was no longer able to replicate the page with the footnote and link at the bottom using my sandbox.

fortunately, i did everything in my sandbox and i didnt edit or reply to, the actual talk topic. i feel like performing either of those actions would potentially cause the talk topic page to rerender without the footnote at the bottom like it did in my sandbox. at least this way, i still have evidence that it happened so nobody thinks im crazy or imagining things.

if you know what might have caused this to happen, or have any advice on the matter, i would really appreciate it. it would help ease my mind. i tried posting the screenshots and links to the wikipedia subreddit, but i didnt get a single reply. at this point, i dont have the foggiest idea whom to ask or how to even begin to understand it, and thats kind of bothering me.

if youll notice, i posted a direct link to the talk topic in question, and fortunately, the footnote is still present at the bottom. i suppose i didnt need to also link the destination url of the footnote in here, but i wanted to be sure you had the infornation in case somebody edits or replys to the post and causes this "ghost link" to disappear before you actually have a chance to take a look at what im talking about.

if you respond to this message, could you please ping me or @ me or whatever its called so i get a notification as soon as it hits my inbox..

thanks either way.. i look forward to hearing your thoughts. have a good new year and a solid 2023. happy holidaze! Snarevox (talk) 08:34, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

@Snarevox: it wasn't you who added it, it was on the page before you started editing. It's caused by someone adding a link in <ref> tags somwwhere on the page. This is a dumb thing to do on talk pages because talk pages don't have a references section, but people insist on doing it all the time. On pages that don't have a ref section, the software automatically renders the refs at the bottom of the page so that at least they are visible. To fix it, click on the little up chevron (^) at the beginning of the link. That will take you to the section that contains the ref. Add {{reflist-talk}} to the bottom of that section and save the page. The link will then stay attached to the section it belongs to. SpinningSpark 11:05, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

@SpinningSpark:

ok that all makes sense..

i found the culprit, but i noticed the link just points to the homepage of a nsfw messaging forum, the actual reference being cited appears to be one of the posts somewhere on the site.. the id data for the post is in the url, but it still just takes you to the homepage, it might be deleted or you might need an account to read it, idk.

since it appears to be a questionable source according to the discussion, would removing the link entirely possibly be a better solution in this case??

im also wondering if you might have an idea why that link rendered the first few times i copied just the source from my topic over to my sandbox and then just stopped showing up after like the fifth or sixth time i did it? i never pasted any actual code for the link, but it still appeared when i published the first few sandbox tests, and then for no reason, it just stopped and i couldnt get it to replicate again. almost like it had something to do with time..

i still feel like if i were to edit and republish my topic without changing any code, the link will disappear, just like it did in my sandbox.

i realize it could have been a bug, im just wondering if you have any thoughts on it? its really not a big deal, i just found it curious.

thanks again! Snarevox (talk) 17:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

First of all, no, I don't think you should delete it. It's part of the record of discussions. If it were on an article page, that would be a different situation, but past conversations on talk should be preserved. I don't think it is worth trying to fix the link either, the conversation is 15 years old and no longer active.

I doubt that you have found a bug in your sandbox, but I'm not going to go through all the edits there to try and find out. If you give me the diffs of the last edit that rendered and the first one that did not I'll take a look for you, but otherwise it is too much work for no benefit. SpinningSpark 10:33, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Spinningspark!

Happy New Year!

Spinningspark,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ^⋠T⋡ 15:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

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— Moops ^⋠T⋡ 15:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Oliver Heaviside

Hi, with this change, I believe you've reverted the wrong part. I did no more than disambiguate Steinmetz; the substantive edit was made by the editor before me, and which you have left in the article. Your edit comment has left a permanent record in the history that I am inserting a POV into an article. Thanks —BillC ^talk 08:26, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

My apologies for that mistake. I have also left an apology in the edit summary so that there is a permanent record. Nevertheless, your edit needs to stay reverted since it is within the problematic edit. SpinningSpark 13:57, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

It says in my source, The Forgotten Genius of Oliver Heaviside that Steinmetz was an admirer of Heaviside. Don't you think it is a little peculiar how Steinmetz is so similar Heaviside's operational calculus?

How do the courts of Wikipedia work, I site one source and you site another source, who wins? I think I should win because I am a EE and when I was in college I took a class called systems theory. My professor wrote a big H on the board. We called it taking the H of the system. If H does not stand for Heaviside what does it stand for? The French that invented Reactance?

Don't you think it is a little peculiar how Steinmetz is so similar Heaviside's operational calculus?

K00la1dx (talk) 17:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Smoked salmon cheesecake for deletion

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High-pass filter

original png

replacement svg

Hi! I made .svg file of .png scheme. SVG files are prefered in Wikimedia Commons as they can be directly translated, have smaller file size etc. Why did you revert my edit? If so, can you give any tips for improvment. A09 (talk) 11:50, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Because the original was beautifully drawn with great clarity. The replacement was terrible in comparison. I don't disagree that svg is the preferred format for diagrams, but that does not mean it is ok to always replace a png format with an inferior svg. Besides which, you rationale does not make sense. The svg diagram remains in existence on Commons so continues to give the advantages of svg to Commons users. Removing it from a Wikipedia article makes no difference to that whatsoever. SpinningSpark 12:05, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

I understand. So do you have any tips how to improve overall if it is so terrible? A09 (talk) 13:33, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

First of all, I'd question whether it is worth the effort. The png resolution is perfectly serviceable for online use and probably any conceivable print use as well unless you are considering putting it up on a hoarding in Picaddilly Circus. There are so many subtle ways the png is better that my best suggestion is try to make an exact copy, but here are some specifics (not necessarily exhaustive),

1. You have put the feedback into the +ve input, so you have probably built an oscillator rather than a filter
2. The png lines are thicker (relative to the diagram size) so show up better at small size
3. The png is more compact (the interconnections are shorter) so the components are larger and clearer than the svg for the same size frame
4. Thicker strokes are used in the png for components than interconnections making the components stand out. The svg has them all of one size.
5. Components in the png that have internal white space are coloured (only one in this case) giving them better visibility
6. The fonts are nicer in the png. The font size is larger compared to the components and more easily read.
7. You have specified the font-face as Arial in the svg. This is Microsoft proprietary and will not be available to every user so will not always render how you see it. You should either use a generic font, or a solution I often use, convert fonts to paths. This forces the text to render exactly as I drew it. Especially important when, as here, maths representation of variables is required. Admittedly, that has maintainability issues.
8. Variables should be in italic font
9. Subscripts should be in upright font (unless the subscript itself is also a variable). Your svg file has not rendered the subscripts as subscripts at all. They are just part of the same text.
10. The earth symbol is badly formed
11. The earth symbol does not line up properly with its connecting line
12. Having R2 so badly off-centre is not very aesthetically pleasing.

SpinningSpark 16:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for all of these tips! I'll admit it was my first such scheme and will think of your guides in future. I'm going to fix SVG later this evening. Sincerely, A09 (talk) 16:21, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Dear Colin, I have uploaded a new SVG with all of your tips included (File:Active Highpass Filter RC.svg). Thank you for your convenience and consideration. Sincerly, A09 (talk) 20:30, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Please don't replace the image in High-pass filter again. This is still not an improvement and has certainly not taken into account all my comments. SpinningSpark 12:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

unsourced or poorly sourced posting

Please clarify to me how if I post things on Wikipedia that does not have a source or that the source is not to your liking, that I will be banned from editing.

Where in the policy of Wikipedia is that so?

As far as I am concerned people post all the time on Wikipedia that they have no source or that the source is not that good. In fact, this is the case of most posting on Wikipedia.

Why don't you take your threat and ban 90 percent of people who edit Wikipedia?

K00la1dx (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@K00la1dx: The relevant policy is WP:V. The problem with your edits is that they have been challenged, but you continue to insert the same old claims (in slightly variant forms) either without a source, or with a source that doesn't check out. It is not acceptable to do that, regardless of what is, or is not happening in other articles. SpinningSpark 17:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

That does not make any sense. This is Wikipedia! We are not professional researchers or editors. People post things all the time that is under-sourced and sometimes has no source at all. That is not grounds to terminate someones account. Lets be real!

Anyways I should be allowed to post in the Heaviside-Layer, that Heaviside used Reactance to describe it, the ionosphere. It in the source that you showed me where Heaviside credits the French to the word Reactance. He also used it to describe the Heaviside-Layer. K00la1dx (talk) 23:42, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

If you are challenged (and you have been challenged repeatedly), you are obliged to provide a reliable and independent source that exactly supports your claim. I don't care if you don't think that makes sense – thems the rules. You are now so obstinately not listening that either you have a bad case of I didn't hear that or you are deliberately trolling. On the substantive issue, you should discuss what you want to insert on the article talk page, I'm not going to discuss it with you here, but I note that user:Constant314 has already reverted you on the grounds of relevance. SpinningSpark 16:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

a question regarding interwiki links and their syntax

howdy captain!

i came across another anomaly that i cant find any explanation for.. this should be an easy one for you.

ok i know that normally when i want to link to another wikipedia article/page, i need to enclose prettymuch the exact title of the destination page within a double set of brackets, with either underscoring or traditional spacing between the words..

so either:
[[The Exact Title of the Destination Page]]

or: [[The_Exact_Title_of_the_Destination_Page]]

my question is, with the above syntax being the standard for interwiki links, how is it that on this page, just double bracketing a characters name takes you to that characters subsection of a destination page with a title that is completely different than the text that makes up the link?

for example any of the following three versions of this characters name:

[[Donna Tubbs]

[[Donna Tubbs Brown]]

[[Donna Tubbs-Brown]]

all render just like other interwiki links that use the exact title of their destination page as a syntax:

Donna Tubbs

Donna Tubbs Brown

Donna Tubbs-Brown

except they dont link to three different pages with different versions of "donna tubbs" as their titles. heck, they dont even list to one page with that title, they all three direct to the same destination page that has the totally different title: List of characters in the Family Guy franchise, and i should add that they even go so far as to put you right in the #Donna-Tubbs_Brown subsection of that page, even though the syntax used to create those interwiki links just use three different versions of the characters name instead of using the title of the destination page.

so im basically just asking how those three different interwiki link versions of "Donna Tubbs((-)Brown)" all link to the same subsection of a destination page that has a completely different title of "List of characters in the Family Guy franchise"?

im not at all familiar with this, i dont know how or why it works or where else this type of, i guess syntax leniency, might also be allowed as far as interwiki links are concerned? is there maybe some sort of css or redirect deal set up in advance? a scripted function perhaps? i really am curious, since ive only had access to a mobile device for the past however long and ive been typing all my markdown manually without the aid of any fancy pants editing suites, i find all these little quirks absolutely fascinating.

for quick reference just in case, here is a quick link to the page and the source for the page those links appear on.

one last thing while ive got your attention.. why does putting two spaces before a bit of markdown always seem to render almost as though it was wrapped in <code></code>? its not exactly the same, but it appears to be very similar.

for example:

double bracketed link wrapped in regular code tags:

Donna Tubbs

same double bracketed link, just prepended two spaces:

Donna Tubbs

both wrapped in code tags and prepended with two spaces:

 Donna Tubbs

as always, i hope this finds you well. i unsuccessfuly tried finding answers to both questions before resorting to sending this to you, if the answers are out there to easily be found, i might not have been asking the proper questions to lead me to them. i appreciate any information youre able to share on either matter. no need to rush, just whenever you get around to it. lastly, if it isnt too much trouble, please ping me if or when you reply, so i can get notified.

take it easy!

thanks again.
Snarevox (talk) 22:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

@Snarevox: You will find the answer to your first question at WP:REDIRECT. On the code markup, that is just a feature of the software. It is a quick and dirty way of getting that markup. Wiki markup was originally extremely simple, it had none of the complex templates that exist today. It would probably not be put in if the software was being written from scratch now. There is guidance on the use of code markup at MOS:CODE. SpinningSpark 17:56, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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Annotated links

For the record, when I use the block conversion tool, I check all the results for sanity and utility in context. On many occasions, it has encouraged me to supply a missing SD (or SD=none, as appropriate) or replaced a nonsense SD.

So I don't understand your objection unless you just don't like annotated links in principle. IMO, it is a brilliant facility that gives readers a clue as to why they might have reason to explore beyond the terse title of the article. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:37, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

I don't like annotated links in principle, but I also didn't liek the results I was seeing in this particular case. Annotation needs to be made relevant to the individual articles it appears in, if it is needed at all. I also find it objectionable that transcluded text can change without the editors of the article being aware of it. SpinningSpark 15:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

That point has been debated at template talk:annotated link. First, there is still the option to hand annotate and in some articles that really is appropriate. But in general, an article listed in a See Also is not critical to the hosting article, the precise wording of the annotation is not a show stopper, and the default SD is quite adequate – certainly better than nothing. Second, there are many See Alsos that have a list of article names that mean nothing to anyone not already familiar with the topic. You don't have to use {{anli}} but if not you have a responsibility to provide your own annotation: it is unfair to visitors to present a cryptic list. Thirdly, a vandalised SD is rather more likely to be spotted by editors in a See Also annotation than in the original article. As this is how we present the response to searches, it really is important that vandalism is spotted and corrected early. Finally, serendipity is one of the most important functions of Wikipedia: we should do all we can to facilitate exploration and broadened horizons, as annotated links do.

In the particular case where you reverted my edit, I concede that all but two of the article names were reasonably self-explanatory. That is unusual.

I won't pursue the point further here so if you are still not content, let's debate it at the template talk page. Thank you. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Sad news

It's with great regret that I mention here that an email has been received by VRT informing us that Spinningspark is no longer with us. I send my heartfelt condolences to his daughter and other family members, and would like them to know that I, like many others, will greatly miss his contributions here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

• My sincere condolences. Spinningspark was always a great pleasure to collaborate with, and will be greatly missed. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Condolences to his friends and family. Spinningspark was a great contributor to Wikipedia, and will be missed. :( Tails Wx 21:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• I worked alongside Spinningspark with great delight through the Bacon Challenges starting back in 2009. What a fun time, and some terrific articles and images were added to our beloved encyclopedia through his and the rest of our efforts. Such a nice guy he was! In loving tribute, one of the images we found. (no, it's not Sparky...but it should be!) Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 22:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

  

  Beard of Bacon

• Easily the contributor that I most admired. catslash (talk) 22:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• He was a great and gentle mentor. Constant314 (talk) 22:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• We ended up in the same place many times. Always immense technical contributions by Spinningspark. North8000 (talk) 01:47, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• It is sad to lose any good contributor but losing Spinningspark will leave a particularly large gap in the technical areas where he often worked. Johnuniq (talk) 03:24, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• This is a shock for me. I had multiple positive interactions with Spinningspark, mostly related to deletion. Rest in peace. JavaHurricane 09:17, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• Very sad news about an excellent editor and a very decent human being. Condolences to his family and friends. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• Condolences to the family of a wonderful contributor, who I rarely interacted with but always admired. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• SpinningSpark was a bright light in electrical engineering topics—a cheerfully expert colleague. He will be missed. Binksternet (talk) 13:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• RIP, it's always sad to lose an experienced editor ... our paths didn't cross much but it was fun when they did. Graham87 14:50, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oh Spinningspark, you will be missed greatly. We go back a long way, don't we? My thoughts are with your family and friends, and with us, because you are leaving a hole in our collective collaborative body. Drmies (talk) 15:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• Such sad news. Spinningspark was an asset to WikiP. My deepest condolences to his friends and family. MarnetteD|Talk 15:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• What a loss. I always enjoyed our interactions. Love to those who knew them well. Star Mississippi 20:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
• He was among the best, may he and his works never be forgotten. Wikipedia and its editors have lost a brilliant editor, and an even greater friend. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 00:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
• I can't remember exactly but suspect he turned me purple. Godspeed to Spinningspark and deepest condolences to friends and family. starship.paint (exalt) 03:42, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
• One of those familiar names whose absence will be noticed. CMD (talk) 15:51, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
• My deepest condolences to his family and friends. May he rest in peace. M.Bitton (talk) 16:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
• Very sad to hear this upsetting news. My condolences to his family and friends. echidnaLives - talk - edits 23:41, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
• I don't recall us interacting much, but I'm saddened by his loss nevertheless. My condolences to those who were close to him. Kurtis ^(talk) 13:08, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
• Another treasure of an editor lost to us. Every edit he made was a step forward for the encyclopedia. BD2412 T 18:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
• A very sad loss. We also go back a while; he was always helpful and polite even when I got things wrong. Certes (talk) 13:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
• that was totally unexpected. I had seen you active like a week ago. May your soul rest in peace old friend. Condolences to the family and loved ones. @Justlettersandnumbers: did you happen to get the cause of the death? —usernamekiran (talk) 14:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Usernamekiran, the email didn't specify the cause. It did say that it was sudden and unexpected, and came as a great shock to the family (to whom I again send my condolences); it happened on 17 February 2023. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
• Condolences to his family and friends. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 19:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
• I just found out about this. He will be very much missed. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
• I'm really sorry to hear about the death of Spinningspark. I worked with Spinningspark on a number of GA reviews. I considered him an excellent editor and will be sorely missed. His family has my condolences. scope_creep^Talk 23:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
• Deepest condolences to his family friends and loved ones. Memory eternal! -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:55, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
• This is a shock! I'm used to seeing you on Wikipedia every day. I'm going to miss you and your contributions. Peace to your family. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
• Your ability to deal with controversial subjects was often applauded. You and your contributions will remain unforgettable. Capitals00 (talk) 17:36, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
• My condolences to your family. ^Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 17:10, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
• Any interaction I have had with Spinningspark was nothing but pleasant and always taught me something. Maybe his name be remembered for a blessing and let his contributions continue to be a light unto the world. TartarTorte 02:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
• RIP, my condolences to his family. —Locke Cole • t • c 04:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
• This is very sad to hear, especially after signing his guestbook just 3 months ago. May he and his family find peace. Johnson524 (Talk!) 22:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
• A very good and knowledgeable editor and encyclopedist. He will be much missed and long remembered. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:45, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Deceased Wikipedians entry

I've written a quick entry for Spinningspark at the deceased Wikipedians page; as an admin and prolific editor, I thought he deserved one. As noted above I didn't know him that well, so any work on it would be appreciated. Graham87 10:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Rest in peace

It's always a sad day when an established editor dies. May you rest in peace, and my condolences are with your family. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 21:30, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Who died? K00la1dx (talk) 12:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)